Edu links service

[webfeatseo]

http://www.getedubacklink.com/

I found this site and was curious if anybody knew if they were legit or quality links in any way.

My site has thousands of legit backlinks (none paid or even built through a service) so I was interested in building a greater diversity from domain extensions and thought edu links would be good. However most edu pages I find that allow any links are SPAMMED hard and not worth my time.

Thoughts

[simplesm]

George Lubaretsi can you tell us what is this post?

if you explain us, i promise give you projects.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2373680

[Group16]

Very often people do have killer content, but they still don't get traffic/backlinks... Link buying is not a bad idea in itself if done properly. However, having 40 edu backlinks done over a short period of time with no educational relevancy with your site will do more harm than good in the end.

[DavidLenehan]

Easier and Faster , yes but more profitable, no. If people don't link to your content then your content isn't that good. People will link and share good content. Long term better content is a more profitable strategy.

[MarkAnthon5]

Sure it depends on factors like indexation, content and link placement. We consider that too. And links we are building are indexed within 2 days, some of them are indexed even faster. Links which are never indexed can't hold even small value, I'm not even considering them when talking about backlinks. Not indexed backlink = no backlink.

[MarkAnthon5]

Because sometimes people don't link to the content and sometimes it's easier, faster and profitable to buy backlinks.

[Dr-Pete]

The large-scale correlation data we've run shows no inherent advantage of the .edu TLD in recent years. I suspect this is in part because those links have been heavily gamed. A reputable institution does carry solid domain authority and trust, no doubt, but I don't think that the extension itself is a strong ranking signal. Would I rather have a link from Harvard than Bob's Bait Shop? Sure, but it depends a lot on where that link is, how deep the page is, if it's indexed, what the context is, etc.

[DavidLenehan]

I just don't understand why people want to purchase backlinks. Personally I believe time and effort should be put into making great content which people actually want to link to.

[MarkAnthon5]

It could be so that edu links have no more value than .com's, but only Google knows that. We can only assume whether it holds more value or not. And I think that it does. Because educational institution linking to your site will be great signal to Google. Matt Cutts said many times, that gaining link from BBC or CNN will be better than gaining it for example from your friend Thom's local grocery store's site. Because CNN has bigger authority than your friend's local store.

So, if CNN and BBC sites hold bigger value than other sites, why .edu sites won't hold bigger value than other sites? Only educational institutions can buy .edu domain, so that means they hold big value. For example, if Harvard University will link to your site, don't you think it will hold higher value than one article directory from AMR or one blog from private blog network? I think that it will. It's only assumption though, but considering test results and positive ranking improvements we saw and continue seeing in our serp reports.

[MarkAnthon5]

Sure, article is spun, because writing 40 unique articles for page would be expensive. For example, if 600 word unique and high quality article costs $5, that will be $40x5= $200. Our prices are in range of $20-$60, so that everyone can afford it. In case we will post unique article on each page, our service will stop being cheap and only small percent of users could afford it. From the launch time, our purpose was and is to give cheap and good service which will help anyone to increase their ranking.

The tactic we use for link building of our clients sites is same for our own sites. And I can tell you, that for 6 years, we managed to get many sites ranked on first page for a long time.

[UnderRugSwept]

Obviously I'm not saying don't build links. I'm saying don't waste time on links of no value. What makes a link have value will always be a topic of debate, a debate i do not have time for.

[Dr-Pete]

I appreciate your transparency, but to me that looks like low-quality article spinning. It's ok to a point, and it may get you a short term boost, but those pages are going to be devalued over time. Plus, they have no other value (those links won't drive traffic).

As for the argument that Google can do whatever they want so that makes anything ok, I strongly disagree. There are link-building tactics that can create long-term problems. Should a client risk a full-on penalty for a low-quality link-building tactic that might get them a 5% boost for 3 months? For me to suggest that as an SEO would be grossly irresponsible. There are smart risks and there are bad risks.

[Dr-Pete]

Rand has a great post on link valuation:

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/10-illustrations-on-search-engines-valuation-of-links

There's no magic to .edu links, frankly - the data over the past couple of years doesn't really support that they're inherently better than .com's, etc. It's true that many .edu sites are high-authority sites, of course, but that's just a correlation (it's not that Google prefers .edu or .gov inherently).

Within any site, though, you have to look at the Page Authority, the number of links on that page, the placement of the links, the anchor text, the relevance (to some degree), and a lot of other factors. Let's take a non-edu example - DMOZ. People kill themselves for DMOZ links, but lately I'm seeing DMOZ listings where the entire page isn't indexed because it's so deep. No indexation means ZERO link juice. So, even though it's DMOZ, the link is worthless.

[MarkAnthon5]

webfeatseo

As I posted above, our clients' sites had good SERP improvements. I'm not going to tell you that our links only will move your site to #1, because no, they won't, you need a lot more than just 40 edu backlinks to rank on #1, but surely our links won't hurt your rankings, they will move your site to higher place and give authority to your domain.

We are tracking SERP movements of our clients and we always saw only positive results. However, you can always try, price isn't too high, we have small prices so that everyone could afford it. What else can I say.

Also, I want to make a note that not all links come from blog posts, some of them are from profile pages. But more than half of profile pages still have content.

About guest blogging - such links are pretty much the same as other links. But they come from .edu domains and you can post about anything you want.

Marisa

That's not the reason to stop link building. Google can do anything they want, anytime they want. They can remove your site from it's index without any reason and nobody will have right to complain, because they own their site and have full rights to their data, plus it's free and you don't pay for being in the index.

Saying that Google can catch you and remove from index for building edu links isn't reason to not build them. You can say that about almost anything. For example: "Google may not like the blue color in your menu bar and remove you from index", "Google may not like one word in your article and remove your from index". So I think you got the point.

Google says don't build or buy links or you will be removed from index since the launch, but if people stop link building, they will loose huge traffic and opportunity to make good amount of money. If you always do what others want and tell you to do, you'll never succeed.

[webfeatseo]

Im trying to figure out the difference in this and guest blogging. If legit effort is put into the articles and pages when they are posted how is it any different than guest blogging?

[UnderRugSwept]

I have seen thousands of sites like this that have been created with the sole purpose of placing links and articles on to help ranking. I predict that one day Google will catch on and these sites will face a similar fate as did the Panda affected sites of last year.

[webfeatseo]

I see that as well. With that in mind would links like this be worth my time? The domain authority is obviously really high but the page authority isnt. Could of course build links into the .edu page and help some but even then is it worth the effort here?

[MarkAnthon5]

Well, sure there will be other people who post their own articles on the site. We aren't affiliated with those educational sites, if that would be the case, prices would be a lot higher. Sites we post links to are open for registration and anyone can create their own pages there. But that doesn't mean backlink from that site will hurt your rankings, because that's not blog comments or something like that. Nobody can post their link on the page where your link is. Additionally, you can check sample rankings of our clients' sites and you can see SERP improvements.

[KeriMorgret]

The page looks OK to me, the category looks like may others have done the same thing. I'm seeing hundreds of pages with thousands of articles similar to http://zoomation.asu.edu/gallery/zoomation_text.

[MarkAnthon5]

Sure. Here's the example page - http://bit.ly/xEQjsR

[DavidKonigsberg]

can you post it publicly so we all can see what type of work you do?

[MarkAnthon5]

Sure, check your PM!

[webfeatseo]

Can you provide us with a sample page you have gotten a link on?

[MarkAnthon5]

$25 package is our smallest one and it's kind of "test" package. 40 backlinks package receives 90% of sales. We still don't charge high amount of money because we aren't a large company. Some huge SEO companies use our service to outsource their projects. Additionally, we don't place links on comment pages.

[Group16]

I agree with Marisa, I had similar experience... In the end my domain was blacklisted and I had to move my site.

[DavidKonigsberg]

I agree - what i was trying to say is if they are charging so little your for sure getting nothing worth anything.

[UnderRugSwept]

What's even worse than that is paying a lot and getting something that will actually hurt you, which is what usually happens with those kinds of services.

[AWCthreads]

What's worse is paying a lot and getting nothing.

[DavidKonigsberg]

You get what you pay for If they only charge 25 bucks it cant be worth much

[UnderRugSwept]

I used a very similar service that promised 25 edu backlinks for 25 dollars. It was a huge mistake, as all they did was place spam comments on dofollow edu blogs. We actually saw our ranking drop a couple of spaces because of this. I learned my lesson and will never do anything like this again. Hence, I do not recommend this. Any company that charges to get you links usually only acquires poor quality links.