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  • PepMozBot
    PepMozBot last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 2:55 AM

    Hi...I am a newbie & trying to optimize the website www.peprismine.com. I have 3 questions -

    A little background about this : Initially, close to 150 pages were indexed by google. However, we decided to remove close to 100 URLs (as they were quite similar). After the changes, we submitted the NEW sitemap (with close to 50 pages) & google has indexed those URLs in sitemap.

    1. My pages were indexed by google few days back. How long does google take to display the URL in SERP once the pages get indexed ?

    2. Does google give more preference to websites with more number of pages than those with lesser number of pages to display results in SERP (I have just 50 pages). Does the NUMBER of pages really matter ?

    3. Does removal / change of URLs have any negative effect on ranking ? (Many of these URLs were not shown on the 1st page)

    An answer from SEO experts will be highly appreciated. Thnx !

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    • Devanur-Rafi
      Devanur-Rafi @Devanur-Rafi last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 9:27 AM Dec 24, 2012, 9:27 AM

      No problem my friend. You are most welcome. As most of your site gets served through https, you need to have your http version of URLs re-directed to their https equivalents. I repeat, HTTP to HTTPS. Make sure that the re-direction gives an HTTP header status message 301 and not anything else. If you do so you do not loose any of your efforts put in to building links to the https version.

      You can check the HTTP header status messages for your URLs by using any of the tools like the one found here: http://web-sniffer.net

      Best regards,

      Devanur Rafi.

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      • PepMozBot
        PepMozBot @MoosaHemani last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 9:14 AM Dec 24, 2012, 9:14 AM

        Hey thanks Moosa.

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        • PepMozBot
          PepMozBot @Devanur-Rafi last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 9:11 AM Dec 24, 2012, 9:11 AM

          Hello Devanur,

          Thanks for the prompt reply. Never knew that http & https would be so much of a trouble. Will get this one resolved. Btw, I just wanted to know whether after making this changes (https to http) will the link value be passed/ redirected from https to http or will I have loose the entire effort made on https pages? Thanks again. Awaiting your reply

          Regards,

          PepMoBot

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          • MoosaHemani
            MoosaHemani Banned @PepMozBot last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 8:16 AM Dec 24, 2012, 8:16 AM

            Sorry but I am little lazy at writing so i will try to keep it short and simple 🙂

            There is no time of it... but your website should be appear for branded terms like if your website s www.exampleABC.com ... your website should at least appear against “example ABC”. If you want to target more keywords and you want your website to appear against them then other then optimized pages you need some targeted links pointing back to your website.

            PepMozBot 1 Reply Last reply Dec 24, 2012, 9:14 AM Reply Quote 1
            • Devanur-Rafi
              Devanur-Rafi @PepMozBot last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 9:12 AM Dec 24, 2012, 7:41 AM

              Hi,

              there is no fixed time after which or under which an indexed page starts appearing in the SERPs.

              I just checked your sitemap.xml file and it has only the https version of the URLs. In the index, I saw non https version is URLs are also listed. So there is no consistency. You have decided to serve the entire site in https and parts of it are still non-https. Serving the pages in https puts an overhead on your server. This might result in poor page loading times. If you have good resources on the server side, then this should not be a problem.

              Though guys at Google say they don't care if the URLs are https or http when in comes to ranking but here I would like to mention as site loading time is an official ranking factor, when Google comes across two similarly capable and eligible pages competing for the same keyword, the one that has better loading times will be favored. By the way,  can you let me know the reason behind serving the entire site in https?

              Your linking profile is not at all consistent. You build links to http://www.peprismine.com and https://www.peprismine.com

              Please beware that http://www.peprismine.com, though it takes you to https://www.peprismine.com, it does not give an http header status 301 instead it gives a status 200 message. This should be fixed immediately. If you get this fixed, I think you should be fine technically but be careful with pages being served over SSL as this tends to screw the page loading times sometimes. You might want to look in to this. Don't blindly go by the page speed test scores instead, look at the actual page loading times. You can do a test here: http://www.urivalet.com and also go ahead and perform a test at webpagetest.org and check out the performance review section.

              Best regards,

              Devanur Rafi.

              PepMozBot Devanur-Rafi 2 Replies Last reply Dec 24, 2012, 9:27 AM Reply Quote 2
              • PepMozBot
                PepMozBot @Devanur-Rafi last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 6:42 AM Dec 24, 2012, 6:42 AM

                Hi Devanur,

                Thanks for the reply. I have posted a query below (In continuation to my previous query).... Would be good if you could let me know

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                • PepMozBot
                  PepMozBot @MoosaHemani last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 6:41 AM Dec 24, 2012, 6:41 AM

                  Hi Moosa,

                  Thanks for the reply. I have posted a query below (In continuation to my previous query).... Would be good if you could let me know

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                  • PepMozBot
                    PepMozBot last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 6:08 AM Dec 24, 2012, 6:08 AM

                    Hi Moosa & Devanur,

                    Thanks for your responses. However, I would like to know some more information on my 1st query

                    After making the necessary changes to our web pages, how long will it usually take to rank for particular keyword/ keywords (Assuming we have optimized these pages, as per the requirement). I read in some websites, that it will take minimum of 1 month, after the indexing is done. Is this really true or a myth? What have been your experiences?

                    P.S: I'm unable to see my url for any of my keywords yet 😞  (Not even in the last page too)

                    Regards,

                    PepMozBot

                    Devanur-Rafi MoosaHemani 2 Replies Last reply Dec 24, 2012, 8:16 AM Reply Quote 0
                    • Devanur-Rafi
                      Devanur-Rafi last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 5:13 AM Dec 24, 2012, 5:09 AM

                      Hi there,

                      Straight into the meat:

                      1. My pages were indexed by google few days back. How long does google take to display the URL in SERP once the pages get indexed ?

                      A. Once the pages are in the index they become eligible to appear in the SERPs but, where they appear, on which page and in which position will they appear depends on lot of factors like the competition for the search term, your content, the back links that you have and the list goes on.

                      2. Does google give more preference to websites with more number of pages than those with lesser number of pages to display results in SERP (I have just 50 pages). Does the NUMBER of pages really matter ?

                      A. To a little extent and in some cases yes, but this again depends on the quality (in terms of relevance, uniqueness, originality etc, etc, ) of the content on a website, the quality of its link popularity and all the other 200+ factors that Google considers before positioning a website in the SERPs. To put it straight, you do not need to worry about the number of pages if your content is of pristine quality and highly relevant as per Google.

                      3. Does removal / change of URLs have any negative effect on ranking ? (Many of these URLs were not shown on the 1st page)

                      A. If the URLs being removed had duplicate content then in this case you will not have any negative effect.

                      Over a period of time, gradually, on an as and when required basis, keep adding pages that target one search term per page with relevant, unique and up-to-date content. This will result in a positive change in your organic traffic numbers. And very importantly, do not build links desperately from all the places. Earn links, that is what I would say, you have to earn links by giving a reason for your visitors to visit your website.

                      1. Try to earn links from authority sites in your niche. Links like this fall in the tier 1 category.

                      2. Get links from generic authority websites (like Wikipedia) by posting quality content. This would be your tier 2.

                      3. Get links from similar theme (sites that operate in your niche) websites. These links can be your tier 3.

                      4. Finally, earn links from generic web properties like forums, blogs, social networking sites, social bookmarking sites etc. These would be your tier 4 links.

                      A very important thing to keep in mind while doing the above is, "the quality of the content being posted". Be specific and try to address an issue or provide a solution in your posts. Never engage in low quality link exchanges and bulk link building. Above all, keep asking yourself all the time, "why should anyone visit my website?", "what can I do to make a visitor's visit to my website worthwhile" and " what should I do to make my website to give a better user experience or a better advantage than that of my competitors?"

                      With questions like the above, you will be able to secure a  good longstanding and enduring position in the SERPs for your website.

                      Also be an active participant in social sites to attract good social buzz. Social signals are very good for your search engine optimization efforts and they can give a boost to your SEO efforts.

                      Wish you good luck.

                      Best regards,

                      Devanur Rafi.

                      PepMozBot 1 Reply Last reply Dec 24, 2012, 6:42 AM Reply Quote 1
                      • MoosaHemani
                        MoosaHemani Banned last edited by Dec 24, 2012, 4:52 AM Dec 24, 2012, 4:52 AM

                        Ok, when you said the URLs are indexed, this simply means they are appearing in SERPs, you can type in your exact URL in the Google search bar to see if the page is appearing or not... appearing against a keyword is a completely different topic it has nothing to do with indexing alone.

                        It’s good to have more pages but if more pages are not producing any value and your overall website is getting low value then you should prefer to go with less pages and more value.

                        Removal or Change of URL can have an impact on rankings... for instance one of your URL is ranking on first page for some “XYZ” keyword if you are going to change or remove the URL  it will obviously going to lost its rankings...

                        It is always recommended to add 301 from old domain to new domain when changing or removing the URL.

                        Hope this helps...

                        PepMozBot 1 Reply Last reply Dec 24, 2012, 6:41 AM Reply Quote 2
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