Whitespark or Moz Local
-
Hello all,
We can't use Moz Local as we're in the UK. Tempted to use Whitespark, but not quite sure what the differences are between the two.
Also, can a website design / digital marketing agency be considered to be a local business - in Googles eyes?
Thanks!
William -
Thank you Miriam
-
This is great - thanks Nyagoslav!
-
Hey Mary!
Nice to see you here! That's correct - Yahoo is not currently one of our supported Network Partners. Our 7 supported partners to whom we currently push data are:
Infogroup
Neustar/Localeze
Acxiom
Superpages
Factual
Foursquare
Best of the Web
We'll hope to expand our network in future, but for now, this is the list:)
-
Hi - I have a few questions about Whitespark.
Once the initial cleanup is complete & your listing(s) are propagated throughout the local ecosystem, what if updates to listings need to be made in the future? Is there one central place to make them? If so, are there additional fees to make future updates?
Also, is there an easy way to manage multiple listings? Right now, that's what's making me lean more towards MozLocal - easy to update multiple locations at once as often as necessary (thinking hours, descriptions, etc. vs. NAP).
Thanks!
-
I recently discovered that Moz Local does not distribute data to Yahoo!Local.
-
Hi William,
So sorry Moz Local can't be in the running for serving a non-US-based business. Nyagoslav has given you a good rundown - I do want to be clear that our duplicate finder app can be really helpful in closing out duplicates on our network partner platforms, but I'm sorry our service doesn't currently support the UK.
For international citation building, the 2 most highly-spoken of services in the Local SEO world tend to be either Whitespark or BrightLocal. I would suggest you check out the features of both to see which is the most ideal match for your needs.
-
Hey William,
First, I'd like to mention that I am Nyagoslav (of Whitespark), and not Darren, but I am using his account to reply
I know that my comment would be biased, no matter how hard I try for it not to be, and it is important that you view it as such. Here is an answer I recently gave to a very similar question (advantages/disadavantages of Yext, Moz Local, and Whitespark Citation Audit & Clean-up):
here are some general notes and Q&As that might help in your decision making. Of course all the decision making should also be made on case-by-case basis, but I will base my notes on the case(s) you described in your original post.
1. Will each of these services take care of all of your duplicate listings, or listings that feature incorrect, outdated, or fake information that should be removed?
Both Moz Local and Yext are uni-linear, automation-based systems. This means that they will, in general, find and fix one listing per website (with the note that they cover only the websites that are part of their networks). They offer different types of add-ons that could deal with duplicates, but additional manual work on your end would be required, i.e. you would need to help them find the duplicates. I have personally had negative experience specifically with the duplicate suppression process of Yext. A few of our clients have had active Yext subscriptions at the time they signed up for our citation clean-up or general local <acronym title="Search Engine Optimization">SEO</acronym> services. That is why I seeked the help of Yext's support to try and get rid of some of the duplicate listings on the sites that are part of their network (note: some of the subscriptions had been active for more than 2 years, but there were still tens of duplicate listings on the sites part of Yext's network). Unfortunately, in almost all of the cases I had absolutely no success going through Yext's support and that is why I did the duplicate clean-ups manually.
2. Will each of these services cover all of the important bases that would need to be covered in terms of citation auditing and clean-up?
The important bases could tentatively be divided in the following categories:
- Data aggregators (ExpressUpdate, Acxiom, Localeze, Factual)
- Important top-level search platforms (Google, Bing, Yahoo, Apple Maps)
- Most important citation sources (the likes of YP, Yelp, Citysearch, Superpages)
- Most important secondary citation sources (the likes of MerchantCircle, MojoPages, Kudzu)
Yext cover:
- Factual + they do have some relationship with ExpressUpdate, but as far as I understand it is available only for some users
- Bing + Yahoo
- Some of the most important citation sources
- Some of the most important secondary citation sources
Moz Local cover:
- All the data aggregators
- Google + Bing + Yahoo
- Some of the most important citation sources
- Basically none of the secondary citation sources
Our service covers:
- All the data aggregators
- All the important top-level search platforms
- All the most important citation sources (except for WhitePages and their network, which is monopolized by Yext)
- All the most important secondary citation sources
3. What is the cost and sustainability of the service?
Moz Local: $84/year
Yext: $500 to $1,000/year
Our service: $750 (one time)I have previously done a case study on what happens when one cancels their Yext subscription. You could find it here.
4. What would be your time involvement and time until work is done?
With Yext, the information should be distributed instantly or near-instantly across their network. With Moz Local, as far as I know, it takes a few hours. With our service it takes about 1 month, as it is a manual process.
It would take you approximately 15 minutes to get set up on Yext or Moz Local. Your involvement would be about 30 minutes overall with our service.
Regarding your second question - historically web design firms have had problems getting local presence on Google (Google Maps/Places/Plus Local). However, this changed a few months ago. Please check this article for reference.
I hope this helps!
Nyagoslav
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Do You Think the Distance Algorithm Has Less Weight for Local Service Related Businesses?
Hey guys, I wish Rand could answer this question, because I know he figured all of this out, or has at least thought about it at least once. Basically, I want to understand exactly how the local algorithms work. Do you think the Distance algorithm works differently for service related businesses that don't offer services directly to your car, or other moveable assets? (motorcycles, lawnmowers, small engines) For example, construction companies. We all know how boring their offices are. No one wants to go to one unless there has been a problem or to pay a bill, say at Trugreen or something. They don't sell products, and who wants to go to some construction company that will likely just be a receptionist and maybe a field manager on his lunch break with some field reps rotating in and out during the day getting new leads and entering sales? That's uncomfortable. Why not just call them? So, do you think Google's local algorithms know that and put less weight on businesses that fall into that category? Car shops, small engine repair, and say shoe repair shops are different because you have to bring them something to fix. Stores that sell products are different because you have to go shopping and pay them to take the products home. But remodeling companies, marketing agencies, etc. probably don't get a lot of foot traffic. (And it's because we know we can handle it on a phone call.)
Local SEO | | everysecond0 -
Unsolved GMB Local SEO question
I am trying to diagnose how one particular competitor is smoking us in local rankings. I came across a text field “Service Details' within Google My Business Services. This allows me to put in a brief description of each service we offer. My thought is that this could be a good place for keywords. That said, the descriptions are not public facing (or to the best of my knowledge) so I am reluctant to do all the work for nothing. I am wondering if anyone has filled these out and if there were any noticeable results. Any insight is appreciated
Local SEO | | jorda0910 -
Local SEO for a business serving multiple small cities
We have a local business that has a showroom in one city, and serve other 5 different small cities (in total 6 small cities). Search volume for the targeted keyword is very low (around 100 each plus minus) with a variety of competition levels. The product is expensive so this justifies the low search volume with a serious user intent.
Local SEO | | Nadiamo44
My question is given the low search volume for each keyword, what would be the best local SEO tactic for this. The website has a DA of 20 with competitors who has similar and higher DAs. Options I am considering: 1. Create unique pages for each location with unique content (no address available so I will have to use a city name postcode)
2. Create pages with the same content (but changing the area of service on the URL, H1 and mention the postcode and the radius of coverage twice in the content) and using a canonical tag to solve the duplicate issue.
In this scenario, I will create the main product pages with the address of the showroom, and mention the area of service covered for the other 5 cities.
3. Given that the 6 cities are part of a greater area, use the greater area to target them all. The keyword of the greater area has a lower search volume than the city keyword. This might work for keywords with low competition but not for ones with high competition levels. Not sure how well search engines will rank the keywords that include the greater area and show the pages for searches in small cities. Any advice on which option to go with or any recommendations for other solutions?0 -
Legalicy of videos used for local SEO
Hello, A client of mine wants to use someone else's video (video of how to train your dog) in his pages for "dog training (His City)" The person who makes the how to train your dog videos sells DVDs and that's how he makes his money if that matters. We want to make sure we're giving the proper credit and doing this OK. What do we need to keep in minds for legalities and respecting the author? Thanks.
Local SEO | | BobGW0 -
How Can i improve Domain "Moz rank and Domain moz trust".
Good Evening , I have few quick questions for you . Please find the attachment . 1.) How can i improve Moz rank and domain Moz trust ? 2.) if you see the numbers , Mine is 0 external links and 0 followed root links domains , How can i work on it to improvise my stats ? 3.) Mine domain is dental clinic ( dentalxyz.net ) , there are other dentalxyz.com and dentalxyz.ca . When i type my my domain name it's shows irrelevant information like other location office. In addition , my youtube channel and facebook name is also different , It's not showing on google search. 4.) I'm trying to upgrade my old nice to new niche. how can i use this moz keyword tool? Where can i use that keywords. 5.) Has anybody tried buying back links from blackhatworld ? Fkmu4am
Local SEO | | hemantt0 -
Does the physical location of a server effect the local rankings of a site?
I've just been running a report on a site and noticed that while they have a .co.uk domain it is hosted on a server in the United States and just wondered if anyone was aware, if the physical location of a server mattered to search engines for ranking purposes especially with local search?
Local SEO | | ben_dpp0 -
Moz Rank Tracker - Local Rankings?
My question is about local SEO rankings. How does the Moz Rank Tracker track local results, meaning I do not see a place to tell the tool what local market to show results for.If I have a dentist in Denver and I enter the keyword “dentist” into the tracker, is it looking for how my site ranks locally in Denver or how it ranks for “dentist” on a national level.Thanks in advance for the help!
Local SEO | | ifuseurbiz1