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  • p4pakao
    p4pakao last edited by Jul 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

    Hi,
     I would like to discuss my issue as my site's some backlinks are generated but DA is still there. Can anyone make me understand the reason?

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    • Paddy_Moogan
      Paddy_Moogan @Vanderlindemedia last edited by Jul 8, 2020, 3:40 PM Jul 8, 2020, 3:40 PM

      Hi Jeroen,

      PageRank still exists, it's just not public. DA/PA etc are 3rd party metrics which are designed to replicate PageRank for the benefit of marketers who want a rough idea of how strong a given page or domain is.

      I agree about the importance of relevant links and good content though and I wrote about this extensively in this chapter of The Link Building Book if you'd like to read more.

      Cheers.

      Paddy

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      • Paddy_Moogan
        Paddy_Moogan @sean-parnell last edited by Jul 8, 2020, 3:32 PM Jul 8, 2020, 3:32 PM

        Hi Sean,

        I'm afraid that isn't correct. There are many, many sources out there confirming that PageRank scores are no longer publicly available. Google Chrome, other browsers and 3rd party tools all pulled the data from the same source. I'm not sure where that tool pulls numbers from.

        Here are some sources to confirm this:

        1) https://searchengineland.com/google-has-confirmed-they-are-removing-toolbar-pagerank-244230 - confirms that this is tools, not just browsers where PageRank will no longer be available.

        2) https://ahrefs.com/blog/google-pagerank/ - mentions commentary from Gary Illyes that PageRank still exists but not outside of Google.

        3) http://www.thesempost.com/google-removing-pagerank-from-toolbar/

        4) https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-pagerank/159112/

        5) https://searchengineland.com/rip-google-pagerank-retrospective-244286

        Cheers.

        Paddy

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        • sean-parnell
          sean-parnell @Paddy_Moogan last edited by Jul 8, 2020, 2:33 PM Jul 8, 2020, 2:33 PM

          You can check PageRank of a domain here: https://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php

          The only thing discontinued about PageRank is the Chrome feature, which is completely separate.

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          • Vanderlindemedia
            Vanderlindemedia last edited by Jul 8, 2020, 4:15 AM Jul 8, 2020, 4:15 AM

            @Paddy Moogan

            The new pagerank these days is DA/PA/UR etc etc. But really i get much better results from links that are relevant and have excellent content in relation of just a number with the opposite. It sells great on spreadsheet obviously but it dont really mean anything. General domain age + content + technical everything well done is usually the key to it.

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            • Paddy_Moogan
              Paddy_Moogan @sean-parnell last edited by Jul 8, 2020, 4:08 AM Jul 8, 2020, 4:08 AM

              Hi Sean,

              Just a note on your PageRank comment - the public version of PageRank, often referred to as Toolbar PageRank and used by tools such as the one you've referenced, stopped being updated by Google a few years ago. This was confirmed in 2016 and you can read about that here.

              PageRank is still very much a thing that Google uses, but we no longer have a way to know what the PageRank score for a given URL is.

              Cheers.

              Paddy

              sean-parnell 1 Reply Last reply Jul 8, 2020, 2:33 PM Reply Quote 0
              • Vanderlindemedia
                Vanderlindemedia last edited by Jul 7, 2020, 10:44 PM Jul 7, 2020, 10:44 PM

                It's actually explained in the https://moz.com/learn/seo/domain-authority article. The more (follow) links to your website the higher your DA will grow.

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                • sean-parnell
                  sean-parnell last edited by Jul 7, 2020, 7:27 PM Jul 7, 2020, 7:27 PM

                  I recommend you go to Google Search Console > Links > Top Linking Sites > More to see if Google has indexed the domains from where these links are placed. If they are not, it's going to be hard for Moz to detect them and they won't help you with SEO until they do show up there.

                  I also recommend that you only target websites for links with a PageRank of 4/10 or higher. You can check their rank here: https://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php

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                  • seotoolshero15
                    seotoolshero15 last edited by Jul 7, 2020, 2:12 AM Jul 7, 2020, 2:12 AM

                    Thank you Paddy for the reply. This explains why DA increase takes time on sites that already have high DA. For quite some time, I was also thinking why the DA for my bodybuilding site is not increasing. But this explains everything.

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                    • Paddy_Moogan
                      Paddy_Moogan last edited by Jul 8, 2020, 2:45 PM Jul 6, 2020, 5:40 AM

                      Hi there,

                      There are a few reasons why your Domain Authority may still be the same, despite more backlinks being built to your website:

                      • Moz may not have discovered all of the new backlinks to your website yet, so they may not have been factored into the DA score
                      • If they have discovered them, then there is a chance that some backlinks may not improve your DA score quickly and it may take more links in order for your DA to go up. This is particularly true the higher your DA is because the algorithm that DA uses is logarithmic which means that the higher you go, the harder it becomes to increase it
                      • The DA of other websites may have changed and could be skewing the DA of the websites that are now linking to you

                      You can read a bit more information and watch the videos here for more information on DA 🙂

                      I'd also just mention that you should remember that whilst DA/PA are designed to give some direction on how well you can rank in Google, they are not connected to the Google algorithm, so definitely keep an eye on DA, but don't forget about other metrics too.

                      I hope that helps!

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