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    • Eric_OWPP
      Eric_OWPP last edited by

      So on Oct. 21, our direct traffic increased 3x and our organic traffic decreased 3x. And it has been that way ever since. Almost like they flip flopped. Additionally, that was the same day I started retargeting to our site. I have tagged all the links from the ads and they're being counted as google paid clicks in GA. And our accounts are linked. I am just dumbfounded as to how this could happen.

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      • douglasfaria10
        douglasfaria10 last edited by

        Hey Arnold Ambiel,
        cheguei a esse tópico porque estava tendo um problema como o seu. O tráfego orgânico e direto foram revertidos. Vi que você tinha esse problema em 2016 e o ​​meu ocorreu em junho.
        Você encontrou alguma solução para esse problema?

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        • Eric_OWPP
          Eric_OWPP @TrentonGreener last edited by

          haven't checked yet but did find this article about serp sitelink changes on the exact day i saw traffic drop.

          http://searchengineland.com/recent-changes-organic-sitelinks-cause-major-drops-impressions-gsc-264424

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          • TrentonGreener
            TrentonGreener @Eric_OWPP last edited by

            Awh, shucks! Thanks for the kind words!

            I look forward to seeing what you find! Let me know if I can help any further!

            Regards,
            Trenton

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            • Eric_OWPP
              Eric_OWPP @TrentonGreener last edited by

              It's contributions like Trenton's above that make me love the Moz community. I will check all that you suggested and report back. 🙂

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              • TrentonGreener
                TrentonGreener @Eric_OWPP last edited by

                I'm going to chime in here as the conversation has already started from which I want to reference a few items.

                While Sean is correct that there is a redirect on page load, - which is weird & not likely optimal - the redirect isn't causing the UTM parameters to be dropped here.
                If you check the Network tab of the debug console of Chrome you'll see the two requests for the URI you listed above. If you click the requested file (in the network tab) & navigate to the 'Headers' tab you will see that Query String Parameters are still there & being passed.
                Now let's circle back to the original problem & see if we can't get to the bottom of it!

                I checked out the graph you linked and while it does seem that there's an inverse correlation there, I wouldn't assume too quickly that they switched. I would encourage you to dive into the data a little bit more. Specifically:

                • I would use Google Search Console's Search Analytics (the actual interface, not the section in Google Analytics) & look to see if the number of clicks around that same time changed much.

                • If there is a noticeable change, dive into the keywords & Landing Pages that saw the shift

                • If there is not a noticeable change, we can cross an actual organic change off our list.

                • I would also look at the change over that period in GA's landing page report. Look to see if there are any pages that saw a gain/loss over the period in question.

                • If there is, add a secondary dimension of medium & see where the change lies

                • If not, mark it off

                • The final door I would check is the changes that were made for remarketing

                • What if any changes were made within Google Analytics? Specifically the admin portion, while I'd check all changes you may have made here, I'm specifically curious if you may have added the URL Query Parameters as exclusions?

                • Were any tags, tracking codes, etc added during this time & are the implementations correct?

                If you dive into these and summarize your findings here, I'll be more than happy to help you further. Though, I have a hunch that the answer is behind one of these doors.

                Good luck!
                Trenton

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                • Eric_OWPP
                  Eric_OWPP @Eric_OWPP last edited by

                  thought i'd add the GA graph that shows the switch

                  xv9pBw5

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                    Eric_OWPP @seanginnaw last edited by

                    so would a JS redirect make the session count as direct traffic?

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                    • seanginnaw
                      seanginnaw @Eric_OWPP last edited by

                      Hey,

                      It looks like there was a JS redirect in place that redirects users to a fresh page view of the same page - don't know if this might be something having an effect?

                      I used Ayima Redirect Tool for chrome to find this - see the screenshot attached.

                      Hope this helps,

                      Sean

                      7A12I

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                      • Eric_OWPP
                        Eric_OWPP last edited by

                        Thanks Sean!

                        Here is the final URL:
                        http://www.oneworldplayproject.com/buy-bulk-soccer-balls/?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=bulk&utm_content=bulk10&utm_term=300

                        Here is the URL in the ad that people could type in. This is a redirect to the www. version:
                        oneworldplayproject.com

                        Also, these are only image ads so there is no display URL being shown.

                        I am also curious why Organic would drop though. But let's play this out first.

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                        • seanginnaw
                          seanginnaw last edited by

                          Hi there,

                          Although you say you've tagged your ad traffic correctly, it sounds like your UTM tracking isn't set up correctly - 95% of the time wrong tracking from ads forces a sudden unnatural increase in Direct traffic. The other possibility is that you're sending traffic to a page that's then redirecting to your site which may trim off the UTM tagging and force the traffic as 'Direct'.

                          Give me an example of one of the URLs you've tagged up and I'll see if anything is going wrong.

                          All the best,

                          Sean

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                          • TheSymmetran
                            TheSymmetran last edited by

                            direct traffic can be from bookmarks and such, as well as it could depend on proper implementation of ads and retargetting too.

                            That does seem a bit odd of a coincidence though, I have never dealt with such a switch scenario like that and to that degree, I have only seen more negligible or at least less worrisome amount of such changes in the past which we ended up not spending time to find out what was the underlying sitch with it as it corrected itself as a trend after a short period of time.

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