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  • tomcraig86
    tomcraig86 last edited by Mar 13, 2011, 1:42 PM Mar 13, 2011, 1:42 PM

    Perhaps some form of viral campaign will push up the searches for 'your keyword'... It's definitely an interesting topic!

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    • Syed1
      Syed1 @Goetzman last edited by Mar 10, 2011, 3:36 PM Mar 10, 2011, 3:36 PM

      There will always be some people who can get around that. Fresh proxies, Private proxies - by the time Google has those proxies (if at all) it in their "list", they come with a fresher list of new proxies. Cat and mouse chase.. except there is one cat and too many mice. Anyways, its not something I would recommend.

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      • Goetzman
        Goetzman @Syed1 last edited by Mar 10, 2011, 12:44 PM Mar 10, 2011, 12:44 PM

        Isn't Google smart enough to have a list of common proxies and not count them for any changes?

        Syed1 nyanainc 2 Replies Last reply Mar 10, 2011, 3:36 PM Reply Quote 2
        • ChrisMacNaughton
          ChrisMacNaughton @CharlesMontgomery last edited by Mar 9, 2011, 7:45 PM Mar 9, 2011, 7:40 PM

          I just went to that link and it looks like it's broken, holding page for GoDaddy loads.

          This page describes it and seems to be working... http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2011/01/is-kevjumba-a-heterosexual-bear-wrestler-he-wants-the-internet-to-think-so.html

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          • HiveDigitalInc
            HiveDigitalInc last edited by Mar 9, 2011, 12:25 AM Mar 9, 2011, 12:25 AM

            Search Suggest is also dependent upon the volume of content related to those keywords. Remember, the original search suggest provided you with data on the number of search results available for the phrase. We have seen marginal improvement with just massive content syndication and no click manipulation.

            Finally, whatever you do, it will have to be sustained. Suggest is updated alongside whatever keyword metrics Google is using. You can't simply hope to run a single mechanical turk campaign and then permanently influence the results.

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            • ericwagner
              ericwagner last edited by Mar 8, 2011, 5:28 PM Mar 8, 2011, 5:28 PM

              First, you have to decide what type of content you're trying to simulate. A breaking news story may get 1,000,000 searches in a day while the previous day that search might have gotten 1000. A major product will get fewer but more evenly distributed searches. Decide which you want before you do anything, or you'll be found manipulating google - and they don't like that, for some reason.

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              • PUnitt
                PUnitt last edited by Mar 8, 2011, 5:28 PM Mar 8, 2011, 5:28 PM

                Rishi Lakhani wrote this earlier today on the subject, great blog post- http://explicitly.me/manipulating-google-suggest-results-%E2%80%93-an-alternative-theory

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                • andresgmontero
                  andresgmontero @saibose last edited by Mar 8, 2011, 2:46 PM Mar 8, 2011, 2:46 PM

                  Very interesting indeed, will be nice to make a few experiments

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                  • Netmasons
                    Netmasons @saibose last edited by Mar 8, 2011, 1:30 PM Mar 8, 2011, 1:30 PM

                    Pretty interesting article, guess I must have missed it despite having liked them on FB.

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                    • saibose
                      saibose last edited by Mar 8, 2011, 1:24 PM Mar 8, 2011, 1:24 PM

                      I got an interesting post from one of the bloggers: SEJ shared this on facebook.

                      http://explicitly.me/manipulating-google-suggest-results-–-an-alternative-theory. Worth a read

                      Netmasons andresgmontero 2 Replies Last reply Mar 8, 2011, 2:46 PM Reply Quote 1
                      • seo_ploom
                        seo_ploom @Blargh123 last edited by Mar 8, 2011, 11:54 AM Mar 8, 2011, 11:54 AM

                        Thank you, that makes sense.

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                        • DanDeceuster
                          DanDeceuster last edited by Mar 7, 2011, 9:00 PM Mar 7, 2011, 9:00 PM

                          When leaving blog comments, isntead of trying to get a link out of them in any way, simply be a normal person, give your opinion of the blog post, then encourage readers to search something. If you have coupon sites this works great because you can comment on a blog in your industry, then tell anyone if they are going to buy the product to be sure to Google for some coupons first, because they can save money that way. No link, no brand mention, but you get more search traffic for a phrase.

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                          • Blargh123
                            Blargh123 @seo_ploom last edited by Mar 7, 2011, 1:14 PM Mar 7, 2011, 1:14 PM

                            This is more theoretical, talk on methods to influence google search suggest, (think auto complete which now will assist SEO alot more with more users using instant search)  We want google to automatically suggest keywords that we have influenced.

                            seo_ploom aarondicks 2 Replies Last reply Apr 18, 2011, 8:27 PM Reply Quote 0
                            • abernhardt
                              abernhardt @Syed1 last edited by Mar 7, 2011, 11:56 AM Mar 7, 2011, 11:56 AM

                              That's a really smart idea... I wonder if the direct link to Google with the search phrases helps at all even when the link isn't clicked on and a search is performed.....

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                              • seo_ploom
                                seo_ploom last edited by Mar 5, 2011, 11:11 AM Mar 5, 2011, 11:11 AM

                                Please forgive me (I'm new to this), but what do you mean by tactics to influence keywords in Google's Search Suggest" / Augocomplete in instant?  And how does it help your seo?

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                                • Syed1
                                  Syed1 last edited by Mar 4, 2011, 10:12 PM Mar 4, 2011, 10:12 PM

                                  The easiest way is the black hat way using proxy/ips. I am not sure if it can be necessarily labeled black hat but anyways...

                                  The clean way is to have a direct link to google with the search terms - put it on high traffic pages and ask visitors to click it and find your website.

                                  Firstly you are increasing the search count and also the likelyhood of it getting included in the Auto Suggest list of google.

                                  2nd, you are getting your visitors back.

                                  You can make it interesting like a treasure hunt, give them a discount or a freebie.. to go to Google and be able to find their back.

                                  abernhardt Goetzman Talooma 3 Replies Last reply Mar 10, 2011, 12:44 PM Reply Quote 13
                                  • Hondaspeder
                                    Hondaspeder @CharlesMontgomery last edited by Mar 4, 2011, 7:24 PM Mar 4, 2011, 7:24 PM

                                    Haha funny, thanks for the link!

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                                    • reegs
                                      reegs @CharlesMontgomery last edited by Mar 4, 2011, 7:26 PM Mar 4, 2011, 7:23 PM

                                      Thanks for sharing that charles!

                                      Although I just checked it out and this phrase "is kevjumba a heterosexual bear wrestler" seemed to have went viral, appearing on titles of tons of different domains.

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                                      • CharlesMontgomery
                                        CharlesMontgomery last edited by Mar 4, 2011, 7:19 PM Mar 4, 2011, 7:19 PM

                                        If you type -is - in google (that is is with a space after it) you will see a phrase "Is Kevjumba A Heterosexual Bear Wrestler"

                                        Here is how that phrase made it to suggest: http://www.viralblues.org/is-kevjumba-a-heterosexual-bear-wrestler-an-only-child.html

                                        reegs Hondaspeder ChrisMacNaughton BrianCrouch scodtt 5 Replies Last reply Aug 16, 2011, 5:50 PM Reply Quote 6
                                        • legalseo
                                          legalseo last edited by Mar 3, 2011, 9:52 PM Mar 3, 2011, 9:52 PM

                                          I have used the mechanical turk in a reputation management scenario to help move a negative search suggest down, down, down by having other searches conducted by turks, such as "brandname coupons", "brandname reviews". (The term was "brandname scam". ) Only a set number a week were tasked and always a different combo of terms. The actual mechanical turk task contracted for was at face value legit - to search for the particular set of terms and note where in the top 10 search results the "brandname" domain fell.

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                                          • ChrisFriesen
                                            ChrisFriesen @Dr-Pete last edited by Mar 3, 2011, 5:06 PM Mar 3, 2011, 5:06 PM

                                            Is there an Canadian Mechanical Turk available? As this is a US only service

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                                            • Blargh123
                                              Blargh123 last edited by Mar 3, 2011, 6:38 PM Mar 3, 2011, 2:36 PM

                                              Social Media driven, internet scavenger hunts could help propigate instant search results and provide some jucy link bait!  Would of course take some sort of contest reward incentivization.

                                              FarmerAlgorythimchangeresutls.jpg

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                                              • KBolsinger
                                                KBolsinger @Dr-Pete last edited by Mar 2, 2011, 7:54 PM Mar 2, 2011, 7:54 PM

                                                I've seen another who shall not be named do that as well. Successfully I believe. 🙂

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                                                • SEO-Doctor
                                                  SEO-Doctor last edited by Mar 2, 2011, 7:27 AM Mar 2, 2011, 7:27 AM

                                                  Create an army of botnets*

                                                  *Highly blackhat and you could end up in prison!

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                                                  • Hondaspeder
                                                    Hondaspeder last edited by Mar 1, 2011, 9:54 PM Mar 1, 2011, 9:44 PM

                                                    It's definitely something to do with a wide range of IP's/accounts/locations searching for the same thing that influences it. I'm working for a site now that has really no SEO, but they're widely known offline for their customized products. People get to the site almost exclusively typing some version of "brand name" or "brand name product." While they won't rank at all for "certain product," when you type in "brand name" it will auto complete with the products they're known for offline, as well as marketing campaigns they've done.

                                                    Edit: As well as one autosuggest being a brick and mortar location (the city) that they no longer operate out of. Which was another search term people would add to the the end of "brand name"

                                                    Hope that provides some more insight.

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                                                    • reegs
                                                      reegs last edited by Mar 15, 2011, 10:48 PM Mar 1, 2011, 8:45 PM

                                                      I'm not sure exactly why, but google started "suggesting" me after I participated heavily in yahoo answers.  No other SEO practices were attempted.

                                                      Perhaps its the wide range of IP addresses typing in your brand.

                                                      Update:

                                                      For some reason this just popped in my head, but my search suggest seems to be equal if not stronger with Yahoo and Bing even though I've had less than 5 queries+Click throughs of my brand in the past year on either of them

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                                                      • saibose
                                                        saibose last edited by Mar 1, 2011, 2:26 PM Mar 1, 2011, 2:26 PM

                                                        I dont think that there are legitimate ways to influence suggest for popular keywords. I have noticed one thing though: Popularity of a particular term leads to its inclusion in the suggest list. Example: I ran an awareness/social campaign to save our historical monuments from vandalism by making a website where people could scribble whatever they want.

                                                        That campaign went off really well with retweets and shares among good influencial folks. It got shared on bookmarking websites as well. Suddenly, I started seeing a keyword "responsible travel" coming up on suggestions. But as the momentum died, we lost that preference. Maybe the QDF algorithm kicked that keyword out?

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                                                        • Dr-Pete
                                                          Dr-Pete Staff last edited by Feb 10, 2011, 10:50 PM Feb 10, 2011, 10:50 PM

                                                          Someone who will not be named (it rhymes with "Bomb Itch Slow") told me to Mechanical Turk the crap out of it 😉

                                                          KBolsinger ChrisFriesen Goetzman Mr.Rangen jest 6 Replies Last reply Jul 29, 2011, 8:46 AM Reply Quote 17
                                                          • ThomasHgenhaven
                                                            ThomasHgenhaven last edited by Feb 10, 2011, 9:54 AM Feb 10, 2011, 9:54 AM

                                                            Using social media competitions to increase search demand for certain queries is very effective.

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                                                            • Dan-Petrovic
                                                              Dan-Petrovic last edited by Feb 10, 2011, 4:31 AM Feb 10, 2011, 4:31 AM

                                                              Going offline.

                                                              Have a TV or radio ad and tell people to search "your keyword".

                                                              I believe this was successfully executed for phrase "seo found" in Australia. http://www.google.com.au/search?q=seo%20found I was first suprised to see a peak in search volumes in Google Keyword Tool and was later told that they had a massive advertising campaign for this phrase.

                                                              This is something I intend to try in the future.

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