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    • onurcan-ikiz
      onurcan-ikiz last edited by

      Hi Moz community,

      I am getting the "Avoid Too Many Internal Links" error from Moz for most of my pages and Google declared the max number as 100 internal links. However, most of my pages can't have internal links less than 100, since it is a commercial website and there are many categories that I have to show to my visitors by using the drop down navigation bar. Without counting the links in the navigation bar, the number of internal links is below 100.

      I am wondering if the navigation bar links affect the link juice and counted as internal links by Google. The Same question also applies to the links in the footer.

      Additionally, how about the products? I have hundreds of products in the category pages and even though I use pagination I still have many links in the category pages (probably more than 100 without even counting the navigation bar links). Does Google count the product links as internal links and how about the effect on the link juice?

      Here is the website if you want to take a look: http://www.goldstore.com.tr

      Thank you for your answers.

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      • BlueCorona
        BlueCorona last edited by

        Hi onurcan-ikiz!

        Moz has a great blog post that discusses how many links is too many. I would check that out for advice—while there isn't an exact number of links you should not exceed, many people suggest having fewer than 100 links per page.

        If you main navigation as a lot of links I would be worried about the link juice. When your website receives a backlink from another website, hopefully with a high domain authority (YAY!), the link juice is being spread out to ALL the pages being linked from the page they are linking to.

        This means if www.cnn.com (who has a domain authority of 96) links to your company's homepage, they would be spreading some of their authority to you through "link juice". But instead of retaining majority of that juice/authority on the homepage (thus increasing the authority on that page), you are going to be spreading fewer and fewer amounts of that authority through all 100+ pages linked from the main navigation.

        Check out this link juice diagram to get a visual representation of what I am talking about.

        Hope this helps!

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        • netzkern_AG
          netzkern_AG Subscriber last edited by

          "100 link rule": At some point in early 2016, John Müller or sb. else at Google said "a reasonable number / a few thousand links at most". Unfortunately I did only save the statement, not the exact source/date.

          Nico

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          • danatanseo
            danatanseo last edited by

            Hi,

            I agree with EGOL that the "100 links" rule is old information.

            To more specifically answer your question, yes, all links in your global navigation, footer and links on category and product pages are all counted as internal links and all (provided you haven't done anything silly like added "no follow" attributes) pass link equity throughout your site. For this reason it's important to be strategic about the architecture of your navigation and internal linking structure. Ideally, your top most important pages should be included, if possible in your navigation and/or footer.

            It's not unusual for large eCommerce sites to have significantly more than 100 links on a given page.

            For example, Home Depot ranks #2 in Google for the term "flushmount lights" with this page: http://www.homedepot.com/b/Lighting-Ceiling-Fans-Ceiling-Lights-Flushmount-Lights/N-5yc1vZc7nk

            As you can see from the attached screenshot, this page has 523 links on it. While clearly exceeding the "100 links" - this page still has no problem ranking very well for a targeted keyword.

            For verification that Google dropped the "100 links" rule, check out this Matt Cutts video from November, 2013 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHG6BkmzDEM

            EGOL is also right that Moz should update their suggested SEO best practices to reflect more current methodology.

            Hope that's helpful!

            Dana

            BVeoZ

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            • EGOL
              EGOL last edited by

              "Google declared the max number as 100 internal links."

              This is old information.

              "Avoid Too Many Internal Links" error from Moz "

              I think that Moz needs to rethink this, though I know a lot of people will disagree with me... but I am willing to bet big on myself.

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