New domain ranking higher. Looks like spam backlinks.
-
A new site has appeared in our industry, and has taken the number 1 spot that we had for some time (years), in addition to some other great rankings above us for good keywords.
The site to my eyes is no better than ours, but what it does have is lots of links from different root domains.
However these root domains are spam, as far as I can see. You know the type, nonsensical blog comments, even links in nonsensical content on other sites. You couldn't make any sense out of the text if you tried.
I think this is the reason this site is ranked above ours now. His domain and pages have higher mozTrust and mozRank already, despite it being a brand new site.
I realise the importance of incoming links, especially from different, good quality individual domains, but my question is, do we join him by getting spammy links everywhere?
-
Thanks for your help Alan!
-
with duplicate content, rather then beiong penanlized, it is more lilkly that you will just not get credit for both. But witch one will get the credit www or non www. To make sure of this you need to 301
you have links in your site pointing to images that use both www and non www. so search engines will follow them as if the are going to a new site. only being images may not be so harmfull. but lets say some one links to you, but use non www, then your www rankings will not benifit. futhermore the SE' will then crawl the rest of the site and then you now have a problem site wide.
buy the way even useing uppercase and lower case is seem as 2 different urls.
I see you 301 is in place, but you need to find all the refs to the non www and fix them
-
Ah, ok thanks Alan. I've added that into the htaccess now.
Do you think that will make much difference? You say they rank as different sites, but I've never seen them both (www and non-www) in the same list? Presumably then that would be because they are somehow being penalised for duplication...
-
Yes thats one factor, but SE's see www and non www as different sites. Your rank is split between the 2. if you 301 one to the other then you merge any rank they have into the one domain.
-
Thanks for your advice Alan. I don't actually want to copy them as I have always believed doing the "correct" thing will work in the long term.
I've always thought to myself "if Google were watching me right now, would they approve of doing this" and if the answer were no, then it's not a good thing to do.
Regards the www, why is this an important issue? Is it regards "duplicate" content?
-
I once was temped to get cheap links, and yes it worked for a time. i have about 200 links each for about 4 sites, over a few months they all dispapeared.
I did notice that your site is accessable via www and non www.
If you fix that with a 301 you may get the boost you need.
-
It's in Google. It's annoying because it's clearly nonsense linking.
The reason I asked is because I know they "might" discount the links, but I've no idea if they will, or how long it will take. In the meantime we're stuck with losing revenue and having no idea whether to fight fire with fire.
I'd love to be able to go out and get decent one-way links from other sites, but in this industry and with what we do, that's just, well it's not possible to be honest...
-
In google or bing?
I assume google, they will eventualy discount the links, Maybe
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Backlinks with high DA but PA1
Whenever we get new backlinks, its always on a PA 1 page, does this pass a lot of link juice as long as the DA is high? I know the PA can go up by promoting the page, but i rather promote my own website than one page linking to my site. Any thoughts on this?
Link Building | | MozVpn0 -
Bad Links to New Domain - Do I Disavow?
About 2 months ago a new client of mine bought a domain and we built him a nice new site; however, it appears the previous owner of the domain used some spammy SEO tactics. I've had to redirect about 30 pages and now I've found some spammy links. I've only discovered a few of them, but he doesn't have that many links yet so I'm wondering what kind of impact this will have. Is it worth disavowing a half dozen links? The sites are in Chinese and appear to be unmanaged link farms so getting the webmaster to remove them is unlikely. Also wondering what else is lurking out there that I haven't discovered yet... I suggested to the client we consider a different domain since the site is new, but he's become pretty attached to it. Any ideas?
Link Building | | Dino640 -
Links from spam sites
Hi! Thank you in advance for your help. Few months ago we suffered a content spam attack. Now, We have discovered that we have imbound links pointing the spam content from external spam and untrusted sites. Could be this affect our ranking? In this case... How can we notify to Google that we refuse these imbound links? Cheers, Luis
Link Building | | delcerro0 -
Too much backlinks [Penalized]
Hello, I purchased a backlink service and I think the most of them were spam sites and sites like that. I am lossing Organic traffic, Im sure that my site is penalized, how long will last it?Can I do something? Thank you
Link Building | | matiw0 -
Before submitting to a directory, what do you look for?
I'm going through one of my competitors links and of course I'm coming across some directories. Just wondering what you might look for in a quality directory. I'm looking at one right now called SoMuch.com and it appears to be a quality directory but then I look down at the footer and I see "Search Engine Friendly Free Link Directory". The domain authority is 80. Thanks
Link Building | | brandco0 -
Domain authority or page authority in ranking
Hi, sorry if this is an obvious one... I am doing some keyword research tool and have a few keywords I wish to ran for. Looking at the DA of the sites on the first page they are averaging 60ish, my site is 33. However, for the keywords I am targeting they seem to have PA of 1, or at best, 5. From what I can make it out appears they are ranking for the keywords because of their strong DA rather than any seo work. If I were to target these keywords and send backlinks to the individual pages and so build up a PA on my pages would this be enough to challenge the competitors or would I still be at a major disadvantage because of my lower DA? Hope that make sense? I know what I mean but hard to explain it Thanks
Link Building | | ccgale0 -
Page Rank Update
I was hit by Google’s latest Page Rank update. I know “don’t be obsessed with Page Rank”, but it concerns me. I thought that I was developing a very good link profile and actually was hopeful that it would go to a PR-5 and it dropped to a PR-3. www.simply-bags.com I have another site www.keepsakes-etc.com and have done very little link building and it also dropped to a PR-3. Can anyone give me some honest feedback about my concern?
Link Building | | b4tv0 -
Is there a way to optimize our other domains for our primary domain?
Hi guys, At the moment we have our main website that is at .com We have also bought all the other domains that are available, such as: org.uk, .jp, .it, .mobi, co.nz, co.za, com.au, .cn and .eu Is there a way we can make these domains work for us a bit more? Currently they all just redirect to .com. Would it be better to put a holding page with a link to us and then a redirect on?
Link Building | | Benj250