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What's the best way to test Angular JS heavy page for SEO?
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Hi Moz community,
Our tech team has recently decided to try switching our product pages to be JavaScript dependent, this includes links, product descriptions and things like breadcrumbs in JS. Given my concerns, they will create a proof of concept with a few product pages in a QA environment so I can test the SEO implications of these changes. They are planning to use Angular 5 client side rendering without any prerendering. I suggested universal but they said the lift was too great, so we're testing to see if this works.
I've read a lot of the articles in this guide to all things SEO and JS and am fairly confident in understanding when a site uses JS and how to troubleshoot to make sure everything is getting crawled and indexed.
https://sitebulb.com/resources/guides/javascript-seo-resources/
However, I am not sure I'll be able to test the QA pages since they aren't indexable and lives behind a login. I will be able to crawl the page using Screaming Frog but that's generally regarded as what a crawler should be able to crawl and not really what Googlebot will actually be able to crawl and index.
Any thoughts on this, is this concern valid?
Thanks!
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Hi Zack,
I think your concern here is valid (your render with Screaming Frog or any other client is unlikely to be precisely representative of what Googlebot will see/index). That said, I'm not sure there's much you can do to eliminate this knowledge gap for your QA process.
For instance, while we have seen Googlebot timing out JS rendering around the ~5s mark using the "Fetch & Render as Googlebot" functionality in Search Console (see slide 25 of Max Prin's slide deck here), there's no confirmation this time limit represents Googlebot's behavior in the wild.
Additionally, we know that Googlebot crawls with limited JS support - for instance, when a script uses JS to generate a random number, my colleague Tom Anthony found that Googlebot's random() JS function is deterministic (returns a predictable set) - so it's clear they have modified the headless version of Chrome they use to conserve computational expenses in this way. We can only assume they've taken other steps to save computing costs. This isn't baked-into Screaming Frog or any other crawling tool.
We have seen that with a 5s timeout set in Screaming Frog, the rendered result is pretty close to what "Fetch & Render as Googlebot" functionality demonstrates. And with the ubiquity of JS-driven content on the web today, provided links and content are rendered into the DOM fairly quickly (well ahead of that 5s mark), we've seen Google rendering and indexing JS content fairly reliable.
The ideal would be for your dev team to code these pages to degrade gracefully - so that even with JS support totally disabled, navigation and content elements are still rendered (they should be delivered in the page source, then enhanced with JS, if possible).
Failing that, the best you're likely to achieve here is reasonable confident that Googlebot can crawl, render and index these pages - there'll be some risk when you publish them to production.
Hope this helps somewhat - best of luck!
Thanks,
Mike
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