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  • cprodigy29
    cprodigy29 last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 2:35 PM

    After searching this morning and finding unclear answers I decided to ask my SEOmoz friends a few questions.

    Should you have an HTML sitemap?

    If so, where should you link to the HTML sitemap from?

    Should you use a noindex, follow tag?

    Thank you

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    • TheGrid
      TheGrid last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 5:25 PM Mar 21, 2012, 5:23 PM

      I always create one and link from the footer text navigation. It is beneficial for usability and search engine spidering. Also. I never add special qualifiers to links like follow etc etc unless it is in the negative (don't follow etc) and even then you can omit pages via robots.txt

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      • cprodigy29
        cprodigy29 @cprodigy29 last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 4:49 PM Mar 21, 2012, 4:49 PM

        They are also on all the service pages at the top.

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        • Copstead
          Copstead @cprodigy29 last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 5:22 PM Mar 21, 2012, 4:49 PM

          If the site is built well, then all pages would be accessible via 3 clicks. So html sitemaps really aren't needed.

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          • AWCthreads
            AWCthreads @cprodigy29 last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 4:47 PM Mar 21, 2012, 4:47 PM

            If something is popular, would it be at the bottom?

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            • cprodigy29
              cprodigy29 @AWCthreads last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 4:35 PM Mar 21, 2012, 4:35 PM

              You're right. I have never clicked on a footer sitemap link either. I have a popular pages section right about the footer. Maybe that be fine work.

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              • cprodigy29
                cprodigy29 @Copstead last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 3:40 PM Mar 21, 2012, 3:40 PM

                I do have XML sitemaps setup correctly. I decided to just add it on the homepage for human visitors and on the 404 pages. The noindex idea was so Google didn't index the sitemap but that's when I had it on every page. I guess it doesn't matter if it's just on the homepage.

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                • cprodigy29
                  cprodigy29 @Copstead last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 3:40 PM Mar 21, 2012, 3:40 PM

                  I do have XML sitemaps setup correctly. I decided to just add it on the homepage for human visitors and on the 404 pages. The noindex idea was so Google didn't index the sitemap but that's when I had it on every page. I guess it doesn't matter if it's just on the homepage.

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                  • AWCthreads
                    AWCthreads last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 3:43 PM Mar 21, 2012, 3:40 PM

                    Hi Will,

                    Personally, I approach this from two perspectives: Usability and SEO.

                    Usability: I don't think I've ever clicked on a footer sitemap myself when looking for things on a website. If organic search does not take me to what I want, I do a bit more browsing with a last ditch effort using the keyword search box. If that doesn't work, I bounce back to my organic search results and try another site or refine my search.

                    Therefore, I removed the footer sitemap from our ecommerce site and created a left nav link to additional categories. The link is above the fold and I call it "Additional Categories." I am shocked at the volume of visitors who go to that page - far more than every visited our footer sitemap.

                    SEO: In my opinion, a sitemap moves links up to the second tier click level because they are buried too deep and don't get the juice. These pages need to be moved up perhaps because the link structure and hierarchy are not sound or maybe it is just too big of a challenge to flatten out all portions of a site.

                    Therefore, I flatten out and improve the link structure (or as sound as you can get). If there are categories that warrant indexing, but are not best sellers, I put them on the additional categories page. If some of the categories are 3 clicks (sometimes 4) and difficult to flatten out or fix, I put them in the additional categories page so people can see them and spiders can crawl them. Our site currently does not have the authority to force the juice to deeper penetration.

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                    • Copstead
                      Copstead last edited by Mar 21, 2012, 2:48 PM Mar 21, 2012, 2:48 PM

                      I feel html site maps are no longer needed if you correctly setup XML sitemaps, and also link to them from your robots.txt file.

                      But if you still want them for users, then I would put it in the footer, and have Google Index and Follow.

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