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What can I do if my reconsideration request is rejected?
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Last week I received an unnatural link warning from Google. Sad times.
I followed the guidelines and reviewed all my inbound links for the last 3 months. All 5000 of them! Along with several genuine ones from trusted sites like BBC, Guardian and Telegraph there was a load of spam. About 2800 of them were junk. As we don't employ any SEO agency and don't buy links (we don't even buy adwords!) I know that all of this spam is generated by spam bots and site scrapers copying our content.
As the bad links have not been created by us and there are 2800 of them I cannot hope to get them removed. There are no 'contact us' pages on these Russian spam directories and Indian scraper sites. And as for the 'adult book marking website' who have linked to us over 1000 times, well I couldn't even contact that site in company time if I wanted to! As a result i did my manual review all day, made a list of 2800 bad links and disavowed them.
I followed this up with a reconsideration request to tell Google what I'd done but a week later this has been rejected "We've reviewed your site and we still see links to your site that violate our quality guidelines." As these links are beyond my control and I've tried to disavow them is there anything more to be done?
Cheers
Steve
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Tom has given you good advice. I'll put in my 2 cents' worth as well.
There are 3 main reasons for a site to fail at reconsideration:
1. Not enough links were assessed by the site owner to be unnatural.
2. Not enough effort was put into removing links and documenting that to Google.
3. Improper use of the disavow tool.
In most cases #1 is the main cause. Almost every time I do a reconsideration request my client is surprised at what kind of links are considered unnatural. From what I have seen, Google is usually pretty good at figuring out whether you have been manually trying to manipulate the SERPS or whether links are just spam bot type of links.
Here are a few things to consider:
Are you being COMPLETELY honest with yourself about the spammy links you are seeing? How did Russian and porn sites end up linking to you? Most sites don't just get those by accident. Sometimes this can happen when sites use linkbuilding companies that use automated methods to build links. Even still, do all you can to address those links, and then for the ones that you can't get removed, document your efforts, show Google and then disavow them.
Even if these are foreign language sites, many of them will have whois emails that you can contact.
Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that your good links are truly natural? Just because they are from news sources is not a good enough reason. Have you read all the interflora stuff recently? They had a pile of links from advertorials (amongst other things) that now need to be cleaned up.
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Hi Steve
If Google is saying there are still a few more links, then it might be an idea to manually review a few others that you haven't disavowed. I find the LinkDetox tool very useful for this. It's free with a tweet and will tell you if a link from a site is toxic (the site is deindexed) or if it's suspicious (and why it's suspicious). You still need to use your own judgement on these, but it might help you to find the extra links you're talking about.
However, there is a chance you have gone and disavowed every bad link, but still got the rejection. In this case, I'd keep trying but make your reconsideration request more detailed. Create an excel sheet and list the bad URLs and/or domains and give a reason explaining why you think they're bad links. Then provide information on how you found their contact details. If there are no contact us pages, check the whois registrar's email. After that, say when you contacted them (give a sample of your letter to them too), and if they replied, along with a follow up date if you got silence. If there are no details in the whois, explicitly mention that there are no contact details and so you have proceeded straight to disavowing.
Then list the URLs you've disavowed (upload the .txt file with your reconsideration email). You've now told Google that you've found bad links, why you think their bad (also include how you discovered them), that you've contacted the webmaster on numerous occasions and, if no removal was made, you've disavowed as a last resort. This is a very thorough process and uses the disavow tool in the way that Google wants us to - as a last resort to an unresponsive or anonymous webmaster.
Please forgive me if you've already done all this and it seems like repetition. I only mention it because I've found it's best to be as thorough as possible with Google in these situations. Remember, a reconsideration request is manual and if they see that you've gone through all this effort to be reinstated, you've got a better chance of being approved.
Keep trying, mate. It can be disheartening, but if you think it's worth the time and effort, then keep going for it. I would bear in mind the alternatives, however, such as starting fresh on a new domain. If you find yourself going round the bend with endless reconsiderations, sometimes your time, effort and expertise can be better put elsewhere.
All the best!
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