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  • activitysuper
    activitysuper last edited by Apr 27, 2012, 5:51 AM Apr 27, 2012, 5:51 AM

    no one has actually said to do anything but wait, I will go against the fold and say strip out all those adsense units down the left and maybe even dump that sharing tool bar at the bottom of the page, you already have a load of social sharing buttons on each page and that bar at the bottom looks like its holding up load times.

    Go into webmaster tools and request a crawl.

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    • activitysuper
      activitysuper @AlanMosley last edited by Apr 27, 2012, 5:41 AM Apr 27, 2012, 5:41 AM

      I wouldn't be surprised Alan looking at his website that a lot of links were built naturally by people linking to his site as it looks like a good resource.

      I've got a website were I built some links to gain a good position and left it, over a few months that exposure built tons of new links without me knowing from all over the web.

      Now if those little sites have been hit, lets say a fair amount had been wiped out then I can see how rankings could be lost.

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      • AlanMosley
        AlanMosley @GeorgFranz last edited by Apr 27, 2012, 5:29 AM Apr 27, 2012, 5:29 AM

        i dont think what you have is wrong at all. nor do i think the google example affects you.

        Do not use read more, as you want to pass relevant link text to the page.

        I think Bobs advice is need edhere, dont panic.

        activitysuper AlanMosley 2 Replies Last reply Apr 27, 2012, 1:27 PM Reply Quote 0
        • GeorgFranz
          GeorgFranz last edited by Apr 27, 2012, 5:26 AM Apr 27, 2012, 5:25 AM

          After a very hard night and a lot of thinking, I've an idea.

          We are using a lot of "keyword links" on our site.

          It's - by the way - http://www.schicksal.com - an astrology site. We have lost 72% visibility - according to figures of sistrix.com.

          So, we are doing this:

          Zodiacs

          Description of Zodiacs

          Now a list with zodiacs

          Aries (longer, descriptive title

          short description of aries

          In that case the "aries" keyword in the description is getting the link to the article.

          I think, google doesn't like this after pengiun.

          So, what is better:

          a)

          Aries

          description

          b)

          Aries

          description ... read more

          What do you think?

          Best wishes,

          Georg.

          link-spam.png

          AlanMosley Dr-Pete 2 Replies Last reply Apr 27, 2012, 6:08 PM Reply Quote 0
          • GeorgFranz
            GeorgFranz last edited by Apr 27, 2012, 5:04 AM Apr 27, 2012, 3:23 AM

            Google provides a form where you can them that your site was hit by error: http://searchengineland.com/penguin-update-peck-your-site-by-mistake-googles-got-a-form-for-that-119698

            Dr-Pete 1 Reply Last reply Apr 27, 2012, 6:06 PM Reply Quote 1
            • GeorgFranz
              GeorgFranz last edited by Apr 27, 2012, 5:04 AM Apr 26, 2012, 3:30 PM

              Damn, it's the penguin update...

              http://searchengineland.com/the-penguin-update-googles-webspam-algorithm-gets-official-name-119623

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              • SherWeb
                SherWeb @dean1986 last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 3:01 PM Apr 26, 2012, 2:57 PM

                Dear Dean, i know it mean a lot and its a pain in the A**, i hope my comment didnt offended you.

                However , u might want to take advantage of that time to review your linking neighboor , your on-site optimisation and all your website agnosic features.

                It happenned to me too , but after some long hours , i was able to get back where i was before the BOOM. Good luck , im sure you can do it too !

                A little wink wink that i can give , is that on my side , i moved away from html 4 to html 5 to better segment my website with

                <header>,

                <footer>,

                <hgroup>and so on.

                Best regards,

                Yan Desjardins

                </hgroup>

                </footer>

                </header>

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                • dean1986
                  dean1986 @SherWeb last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 2:38 PM Apr 26, 2012, 2:38 PM

                  "simply fell down in the SERP"

                  you say it like it means nothing....

                  SherWeb diywm 2 Replies Last reply May 4, 2012, 3:29 PM Reply Quote 0
                  • SherWeb
                    SherWeb last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 2:25 PM Apr 26, 2012, 2:25 PM

                    Your websiteis not de-indexed from google , it simply fell down in SERP as you still show for your branded keywords..

                    https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:eseyo.com+%22seo+in+brentwood%22&oq=site:eseyo.com+%22seo+in+brentwood%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=hp.3...18169.25075.1.25530.25.24.0.0.0.0.243.4049.1j17j6.24.0.GLBZBoFXI_c&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=160a46efcf63646c&biw=1454&bih=762

                    Did You recieve any sort of notice in Google Webmasters Tools ?

                    Regards ,

                    Yan Desjardins

                    dean1986 1 Reply Last reply Apr 26, 2012, 2:38 PM Reply Quote 1
                    • AlanMosley
                      AlanMosley @dean1986 last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 1:49 PM Apr 26, 2012, 1:49 PM

                      Yes just noticed, i thought we were all talking of the last over-op update

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                      • dean1986
                        dean1986 @AlanMosley last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 1:47 PM Apr 26, 2012, 1:47 PM

                        already mentioned on the post Alan

                        AlanMosley 1 Reply Last reply Apr 26, 2012, 1:49 PM Reply Quote 0
                        • AlanMosley
                          AlanMosley last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 1:40 PM Apr 26, 2012, 1:40 PM

                          I wonder if anyone noticed this update http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/another-step-to-reward-high-quality.html

                          should be hitting now

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                          • Dr-Pete
                            Dr-Pete Staff last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 1:23 PM Apr 26, 2012, 1:23 PM

                            The so-called "over-optimization" penalty definitely hit hard, sometime between 4/24-4/25. It is possible to see Google make a correction, but it doesn't appear that there were major changes between 4/25-4/26. Of course, this just happened, so we don't have much data.

                            Given the large scale of the drop and that this is a confirmed algorithm change, I think you have to start there. This is the official post from Google and I see that someone has already linked to Rand's post:

                            http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2012/04/another-step-to-reward-high-quality.html

                            Look specifically at the terms that dropped. Are you aggressively targeting those terms (with keyword stuff, inbound anchor text, etc.)? I think the "Don't Panic" advice has some merit - if you over-optimize to reverse over-optimize, you've just made even more of a mess. I'm not saying to sit on your hands, but dig deep into the analysis and put together a reasonable plan of attack - don't just start changing things at random.

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                            • GeorgFranz
                              GeorgFranz last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 12:06 PM Apr 26, 2012, 12:06 PM

                              Hi,

                              thanks for all responses so far!

                              I've looked in our access stats... Today we will have less visitors than yesterday, so the nitemare is still not over...

                              I don't think it's a good idea to wait some days and do nothing. There must be a reason for this - a penalty or a ranking algo change. And the only way around is to remove the "thing" which caused the mess.

                              Possibly reasons:

                              1. Over optimized on page (could be) - restructure site and recode html
                              2. Bad links (can't be removed easily) which are punished by google

                              I can't restructure / recode the site within days but within 1-2 weeks. If we get back the top positions meanwhile, I will also apply the new code to be fit for the future.

                              Have I overseen a thing?

                              Best wishes,

                              Georg.

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                              • Jinx14678
                                Jinx14678 @vforvinnie last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 11:25 AM Apr 26, 2012, 11:25 AM

                                The reason is probably -

                                Giving someone blanket advice that is only partially helpful is not good...

                                So he waits a week, and has done no research into what may have caused this, what then? Panic?

                                I would fully agree that panicing is the wrong idea, but so is sitting around doing nothing, as an agency - it is very easy for a person to say - just wait it out, but as a consumer what does that mean - sit around and do nothing, or proactivlely begin researching the possible causes?

                                So I would think a more correct answer IMHO to someone who is new to the game, would be...

                                Don't panic, but don't be complacent - Begin researching your tactics over the past years, your link profile your on page seo ect.. so in a few weeks IF it does not "Magically" clear itseld you can have a clear actionable plan to begin responding - two weeks of no money coming in could mean death for a business.... So why would you not begin researching while "wating"

                                I also do not think the "dust" will settle, this is an ongoing battle, and will be for some time to come - so waiting a few weeks on a site that = livelyhood is not a smart decision either

                                IMHO of course 🙂

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                                • vforvinnie
                                  vforvinnie @bobjones last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 10:43 AM Apr 26, 2012, 10:43 AM

                                  I don't see why this is getting downvoted.  Traditionally Google does make corrections after a significant update.  The website in question is still receiving traffic and isn't completely out of the index, and could very well see the rankings go back in a week or two.

                                  If you panic and start making site changes immediately, you may not know what the cause of the problem was.  If you go and change title tags, remove some spammy looking links, change the anchor text and a handful of other things you would not know which was effective and which wasn't.

                                  It's like pulling your goalie in hockey after going down 2-0 in the first 5 minutes.  Let the updates play themselves out for a week or two and go from there.

                                  Jinx14678 1 Reply Last reply Apr 26, 2012, 11:25 AM Reply Quote 4
                                  • MatthewBarby
                                    MatthewBarby @GeorgFranz last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 9:33 AM Apr 26, 2012, 9:33 AM

                                    Yes, that's what I would advise.

                                    I think a lot of us have been hit with this. Just try and comply with Google as much as possible, and I think the first port of call is all the on-page SEO.

                                    Matt.

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                                    • bobjones
                                      bobjones last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 9:30 AM Apr 26, 2012, 9:30 AM

                                      The best thing you can do right now is nothing. Sit tight for about a week orso, keep an eye on your traffic and serps.Give Google some time to sort itself out and have a look when the dust settles. Don't go into panic mode and start changing all sorts of things - worst thing you can do right now.

                                      vforvinnie 1 Reply Last reply Apr 26, 2012, 10:43 AM Reply Quote 8
                                      • GeorgFranz
                                        GeorgFranz @activitysuper last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 9:05 AM Apr 26, 2012, 9:05 AM

                                        No, we have no paid links. We have written several articles which were sent to press agencies over the years. Blogs, newspapers, other sites etc. are linking our content.

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                                        • GeorgFranz
                                          GeorgFranz @MatthewBarby last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 9:02 AM Apr 26, 2012, 9:02 AM

                                          Hi Matt,

                                          thank you for your advices! I will have a look at Rands whiteboard. So your suggestion is to reformat / restructure the html code to get out of this?

                                          Best wishes,

                                          Georg.

                                          MatthewBarby 1 Reply Last reply Apr 26, 2012, 9:33 AM Reply Quote 1
                                          • dean1986
                                            dean1986 last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 8:59 AM Apr 26, 2012, 8:59 AM

                                            we need a new sub forum to deal with all this and have all answers and questions in one place.

                                            Peoples business's are being ruined, we need to all come together in one place and learn from each other to get over this as quickly and painlessly as possible.

                                            Please like this and I will email SEOmoz to see will they do it. Thanks

                                            randfish AlanMosley 2 Replies Last reply Apr 29, 2012, 2:37 AM Reply Quote 40
                                            • GeorgFranz
                                              GeorgFranz @myclicks-163603 last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 8:58 AM Apr 26, 2012, 8:58 AM

                                              Hi Ivo,

                                              thanks for your fast answer and the link to article! We have not done any article spinning (I didn't know about article spinning till last week...). We have not done any link building for the high traffic keywords, but we have done link building for other keywords (which are not affected).

                                              No, we had no break down a month ago, I've attached our analytics...

                                              So, if it's a penalty - what to do?

                                              Best wishes,

                                              Georg.

                                              lTUzy.png

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                                              • MatthewBarby
                                                MatthewBarby last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 8:48 AM Apr 26, 2012, 8:48 AM

                                                Hi Georg,

                                                I have had the same problem. It is because of the latest update by Google around 'over-optimisation'.

                                                Don't worry though, all is not lost! There are a few things that you need to change:

                                                • Make sure that your webpage titles are not over-optimised (i.e. 'Free Shoes, New Shoes, Sports Shoes - Shoe Company'). Make sure that they read properly and don't look spammy. Try not to repeat any of the keywords more than once, if at all.

                                                • Check that all of the links on the page are not suspicious. For example, having loads of anchor text linking to the same page.

                                                • See what your keyword density is on your webpage and see if you have maybe be keyword stuffing (Google is being a lot harsher and stricter on this now).

                                                • Go through your img alt attributes and check they are all relevant and not just blatanet attempts to fit in long-tail keywords.

                                                Once you have done this, resubmit the pages to the Google index and hopefully, after a few weeks, you should start regaining some ground. Unfortunately its a bit of a waiting game now, but make sure you do everything you can to show to Google that you are not over-optimising and you should be OK.

                                                Also, take a look at Rand's recent whiteboard Friday which goes over this.

                                                Good luck!

                                                Matt.

                                                GeorgFranz luwhosjack 2 Replies Last reply Jun 14, 2012, 1:41 PM Reply Quote 5
                                                • activitysuper
                                                  activitysuper last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 8:47 AM Apr 26, 2012, 8:47 AM

                                                  If you have built backlinks from websites that have been hit by the update then basically those backlinks which are helping you to rank have gone and therefore your rankings drop.

                                                  When you say 'lots of (good) inbound links' what we talking about directory submissions, guest posts, paid links?

                                                  GeorgFranz seo-wanna-bs 2 Replies Last reply Jun 14, 2012, 8:34 AM Reply Quote 2
                                                  • myclicks-163603
                                                    myclicks-163603 last edited by Apr 26, 2012, 8:45 AM Apr 26, 2012, 8:45 AM

                                                    Hi Georg,

                                                    Looks like a penalty. We have experienced similar things yesterday on a number of websites which we've been adopting overly-aggressive link building tactics and it is a result of a recent google update:

                                                    http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2012/04/another-step-to-reward-high-quality.html

                                                    It is not a result of your onsite SEO. There might be different reasons for it but I do consider it as a result of article spinning which might have been taking part of your link building activities. Especially if the keywords that you lost rankings for have been targeted by such links - spinned content on private or public blog networks.

                                                    Have you had some kind of drop in rankings about a month ago for those particular keywords?

                                                    Kind regards,

                                                    Ivo

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