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  • barberm
    barberm last edited by Sep 4, 2013, 6:40 PM

    My site has had a manual action performed on it by Google indicating that I have inbound links that fall outside of their quality guidelines. I did my own research, found what I thought was the issue, had the links removed and requested reconsideration. Google's response surprised me in that they highlighted two specific pages with links that were the direct result of valid press releases and a publisher picking up our release off a wire service. Has anyone else seen this occur? Anyone had a case successfully reconsidered? I realize that I don't need to do anything at all as the manual action is in effect and will stay that way, discounting those links, but I would rather a) not have any manual action against my site and b) know for the future so this doesn't happen again. Also, is this applicable for guest blog posts, which effectively create the same type of backlinks? Thanks

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    • barberm
      barberm @CleverPhD last edited by Sep 18, 2013, 10:50 AM Sep 18, 2013, 10:50 AM

      It was a mix of both. There were some embedded keywords with nofollow links (which I thought were ok given that they were nofollowed). The keywords weren't forced in, just naturally present and then linked, doing so to have a nice balance between follow and nofollow links to the site.

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      • CleverPhD
        CleverPhD @barberm last edited by Sep 18, 2013, 10:38 AM Sep 18, 2013, 10:38 AM

        Follow-up question on your links that were no followed.

        1. Were they links within the body of the release that were optimized with anchor text. e.g. Widget Industries Inc (Wii) is proud to announce the latest in wigitized technology, pink widgets!  Joe Smith, president of Wii said that, "Our red widgets are a technology leader, we thought pink widgets would be a win win win!"    and in your text "pink widgets" was linked to an optimized page for pink widgets on your site.

        or

        1. Was it that you simply had a link under your contact info e.g.

        Widget Industries Inc 124 Anyroad, Anytown, State, Zip, www.domain.ext, phone

        Just curious the types of links you put into that release.

        I have seen talk from various persons saying links in press releases are ok as long as you are not keyword embedding them.  Seems silly that you would be penalized for linking to your company in the contact info, but I wanted to see.

        Thx,

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        • barberm
          barberm @FedeEinhorn last edited by Sep 18, 2013, 10:30 AM Sep 18, 2013, 10:30 AM

          Upon further investigation, I traced back all inbound links created from PRWeb activities and found that most links created were correctly tagged as "nofollow" but it appears certain publishers removed the embedded nofollow tag when publishing. Specifically, pressreleasepoint.com and streetinsider.com are two examples where the same press release that was sent to and published by hundreds of other outlets as nofollow, were published by them with no such tag.

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          • Doc_Sheldon
            Doc_Sheldon @FedeEinhorn last edited by Sep 5, 2013, 4:22 AM Sep 5, 2013, 4:22 AM

            Thanks, Federico. I understand your logic. And I'm not arguing it - I just tend to try to "read between the lines" whenever Google makes a statement. I certainly can see the logic of nofollow on a link while a PR sits on PRWeb or another PR site. But if the NYT or Wash. Post decided to run that story (yeah, I know... pretty unlikely 😛 ) I have difficulty understanding how Google would hold it against a site if the paper left off the nofollow.

            Thanks for the response!

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            • FedeEinhorn
              FedeEinhorn @Doc_Sheldon last edited by Sep 5, 2013, 1:23 AM Sep 5, 2013, 1:23 AM

              They should be no-follow even on those sites that may pick the news up. Like the question says, the response from Google to the reconsideration request mentions links that were on syndicating sites, not on the actual PRWeb site.

              And the statement I mentioned was a quote from PRWeb, and it says and I quote "all outgoing syndication" meaning that even those outside PRWeb site are being no-followed.

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              • Doc_Sheldon
                Doc_Sheldon @FedeEinhorn last edited by Sep 5, 2013, 1:16 AM Sep 5, 2013, 1:14 AM

                Federico, I'm familiar with the fairly recent statement from Google that links in press releases should be nofollow. In searching for it, I can't locate where it was, but I found this on the support blog: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66356?hl=en
                This only refers to anchor text rich links, however. Do you have a link that will clarify this?

                I ask because my impression is that they only need to be nofollow on the PR distribution site. If a journalist picks up the release and runs it, my impression was that it needn't be nofollow then, (unless, of course, we see it's on a low quality site).

                Thanks!

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                • MoosaHemani
                  MoosaHemani Banned last edited by Sep 5, 2013, 12:49 AM Sep 5, 2013, 12:49 AM

                  Links coming from PRWeb and other Press Release websites should be no-follow and Google is quite finicky about this and do not allow anyone to build links through this press release related sites.

                  Hope this helps!

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                  • FedeEinhorn
                    FedeEinhorn last edited by Sep 18, 2013, 12:43 AM Sep 4, 2013, 7:21 PM

                    Yes. Links from PRWeb are considered unnatural if not no-followed. You must nofollow all the links in your releases, and in case other sites pickup your PRs, just make sure those links are no followed.

                    PRWeb claimed they made several changes to comply with Google guidelines, but given the amount of people that use their services only for the SEO effect, it would be hard to believe that they actually force the nofollow to all their releases and the sites that syndicates them.

                    From PRWeb:

                    "As far as changes in links and backlinking these changes come from google and apply to all press release distribution. We have been proactive in these changes and marking all outgoing syndication as ‘no-follow’ in accordance with Googles new rules."

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