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  • Brand_Psychic
    Brand_Psychic last edited by Jul 18, 2014, 1:17 PM

    Very often Google Analytics will show 50-90% of our referrers as (direct) which is not very helpful.

    Are there other tools out there that will provide a clearer breakdown of what other websites are sending us our traffic?

    Specifically, I want to be able to be able to tell who are the top traffic referrers to my top performing pages on my site for the last 30 days. (I want to be able to study this on a per-page basis.)

    Thanks in advance!

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    • Brand_Psychic
      Brand_Psychic @RobertFisher last edited by Aug 24, 2014, 7:47 PM Aug 24, 2014, 7:47 PM

      Thank you for the amazing answer Robert. I followed your advice and checked for the GA code. Fortunately it is indeed placed in the header before the /head code, and it is only placed once.

      I'm very grateful for this information, for at least now I don't have to worry that we've somehow implemented GA incorrectly on our site.

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      • RobertFisher
        RobertFisher last edited by Jul 22, 2014, 12:56 PM Jul 22, 2014, 12:56 PM

        Killer

        I saw this in the Moz Top 10 this morning and had to reach out to you. Very interesting stuff on organic traffic showing as direct. While not referral showing as direct, I think you will see the implications. Best

        Groupon organic vs direct test.

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        • RobertFisher
          RobertFisher @Brand_Psychic last edited by Aug 24, 2014, 7:44 PM Jul 21, 2014, 7:27 PM

          Killer,

          Sorry I fell out of the loop on this one. I have to say that Takeshi has done beyond an above admirable job on laying out the issues of how referrers become direct. I think two things stand out to me: yes the installation of your GA code could be wrong and it should be before the closing head tag . Often people will put it in the footer and occasionally someone enters it more than once.

          I think another thing you have to look at is you are comparing Chartbeat to GA and they provide two types of analytics. The numbers, of course, are different. Chartbeat was out before GA had realtime and, I think, it was intended for the real time needs. It claims to have better data for publishers and I have no way of comparing. Since it has been around for some time, I would think it has some real traction, but you have to be careful as you are comparing two different services.

          Another thing that gives me a slight amount of concern about the issue is that they have a section on how they help you sell more ads (when you are a publisher). That type of data makes me a bit nervous. It may be the real deal, it just makes me nervous when something claims to help you prove your position.

          The question re your site is a bit skewed in the way you present it. What is the other data re that site? How many total directs? How many organic visits? How many PPC visits? Etc. You cannot just conclude that there cannot be that many directs without all the data. How many total visits would be the first place to look.

          As to the expert on analytics and your GA code, you can do it your self. Look at view page source (typically a right click function). When you have the page with the code on it, do a control lookup (command or Control  plus  F on). Then in the search box, type in UA- and see where it occurs. There should be only one occurrence of UA-XXXXXXXX-1 or -12, etc.

          If you see it more than once it is likely a problem, but not always. If it is in the header and footer, typically you will see an artificially low 2% or less bounce rate. You can also do a lookup of the closing head tag and see if it is after the analytics code.)

          I hope this helps you a bit.

          Robert

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          • Brand_Psychic
            Brand_Psychic last edited by Jul 21, 2014, 3:12 PM Jul 21, 2014, 3:12 PM

            You know what, that is a GREAT question. Maybe we should hire a professional to check up on our Analytics settings/scripts/installation to make sure it is all working properly.

            Is there a special designation I should look for when hiring someone like that? Is there such a thing as a "certified analytics expert" or something? 😃

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            • TakeshiYoung
              TakeshiYoung @Brand_Psychic last edited by Jul 18, 2014, 7:52 PM Jul 18, 2014, 7:52 PM

              Interesting. Do you know if Google Analytics is installed properly? Is the code in your header? Are there any javascript errors on your page? Do you have multiple analytics scripts installed?

              May be some kind of tracking issue there.

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              • Brand_Psychic
                Brand_Psychic @TakeshiYoung last edited by Jul 18, 2014, 7:31 PM Jul 18, 2014, 7:31 PM

                Hi TakeshiYoung,

                Thank you for taking the time to answer my question! When I was first presented this problem by my editor (who is trying to use GA), I thought the same thing as you -- that if GA couldn't find the info then it probably can't be found by any other tool.

                However, my editor presented me with this example: one recent blog posts had 6,000 pageviews. Google showed referral data as:

                • 5,000 (direct)
                • 344 off.net.mk
                • 113 facebook
                • 21 feedly

                Using another tool called Chartbeat on the same blog post, we got way clearer data:

                • 3,410 from off.net.mk
                • 1140 from fb
                • 425 from feedly.

                We think the 5,000 direct number from Google must be wildly inaccurate. How could 5,000 out of 6,000 pageviews be direct?

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                • Brand_Psychic
                  Brand_Psychic @RobertFisher last edited by Jul 18, 2014, 7:29 PM Jul 18, 2014, 7:29 PM

                  Hi Robert,

                  Thank you for taking the time to answer my question! Your rephrasing of my question is correct. Here's an actual example provided to me by our editor who is trying to figure this out.

                  For example, one recent blog posts had 6,000 pageviews. Google showed referral data as:

                  • 5,000 (direct)
                  • 344 off.net.mk
                  • 113 facebook
                  • 21 feedly

                  Using another tool called Chartbeat on the same blog post, we got way clearer data:

                  • 3,410 from off.net.mk
                  • 1140 from fb
                  • 425 from feedly.

                  We think the 5,000 direct number from Google must be wildly inaccurate. How could 5,000 out of 6,000 pageviews be direct?

                  I hope this helps!

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                  • TakeshiYoung
                    TakeshiYoung last edited by Jul 18, 2014, 7:19 PM Jul 18, 2014, 7:19 PM

                    Not really. Google only shows referrers as (direct) when there is no referral data present, and that's an issue with the referrer, not your tracking system. Referral data can be lost for many reasons:

                    • The user is getting to your site by typing the URL directly into their browser
                    • The user is getting to your site via a bookmark or browser favorite
                    • The user is using iOS6, which doesn't pass referrer data properly for search traffic
                    • The user is clicking on a link from an e-mail client which doesn't pass referrers (common if you have mailing list)
                    • The site that is linking to you is using HTTPS, and you are using HTTP
                    • Traffic is coming via a mobile app that doesn't pass referrers
                    • The user is using IE and they clicked on a Javascript or Flash link
                    • Etc.

                    You may be able to get around this to a certain extent by using URL parameters (utm_source, utm_campaign), but those would only be for links that you have some control over.

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                    • RobertFisher
                      RobertFisher last edited by Jul 18, 2014, 1:31 PM Jul 18, 2014, 1:31 PM

                      Killer

                      When you say referrers are showing as direct, what are you meaning by that? 
                      If I type in your domain and enter, I will show as direct.

                      If I go to site A (say YP.com) and click a link to your site it will show as a referral from YP.com.

                      The way you are saying this, if you are getting 1000 visits in a fixed period it shows as 500 organic, 450 direct and 50 referred. You believe the 450 direct are actually more like 50 direct and 400 referred, is that correct?

                      Best,

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