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    • Chris_Mc
      Chris_Mc Subscriber last edited by HayleyBowyer

      Hi,

      We have noticed our home page title tag has now been replaced by our brand name (by Google I'm assuming).

      We have also noted that the page is dropping off SERPS for our main keywords, I suspect they are related but ofc I cant be sure. I know the recent Google update has impacted titles but I wasn't sure if it would apply here.

      Has anyone any advice on this and/or having the same issue?

      We normally rank well for grass seed (UK search) https://thegrasspeople.com/

      I also noticed some strange mark up in our source code which seems to have been left behind by Sketch - we are getting this removed.

      <title>Combined Shape</title>
      <desc>Created with Sketch.</desc>
      

      Chris

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      • tir17
        tir17 @southwestfilm last edited by

        Hi @southwestfilm

        There seems to be a misunderstanding as the Page Title is matching the title tag of the code. Kindly check once again.
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        • AuroramediaUK
          AuroramediaUK @piotrstarzynski last edited by

          I have the same issue with my site - South West Film. The page title is Video Production Company Bristol - South West Film but Google replaces it with South West Film: Video Production Company Bristol. Not sure if it is hurting my rankings.

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          • southwestfilm
            southwestfilm @piotrstarzynski last edited by

            I have the same issue with my Joomla site South West Film which has the title tag as Video Production Company Bristol - South West Film but Google replaces it with South West Film: Video Production Company Bristol. Not sure if it is hurting my ranking.

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            • Chris_Mc
              Chris_Mc Subscriber @tir17 last edited by

              Thanks for the advice.

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              • tir17
                tir17 @Chris_Mc last edited by

                Hey @chris_mc

                We all had noticed a similar issue but this is not something new. Just like Google decides what to show for a meta description tag from the page on a SEPR, similarly, it can even choose the most appropriate title to display on SERPs based on your page content.

                I would recommend adding quality content (About 600 to 800 words) which signals the crawlers what the page is about and include your primary and secondary keywords in the Page Title, Meta Description, Image Alt Tags, Headers, Content & Page URL and other important on-page avenues if feasible.

                These will provide great signals to the crawler and Googlebot will know and showcase the appropriate Page Title.

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                • Chris_Mc
                  Chris_Mc Subscriber @piotrstarzynski last edited by

                  @piotrstarzynski Thanks for the reply and link - we've asked the devs the same question, they are workling on the changes - they are just a little slow..

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                  • piotrstarzynski
                    piotrstarzynski @Chris_Mc last edited by

                    @chris_mc Title looks exactly the same as in code.

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                    You have some unnecessary/garbage things in code. For example why do you need title meta?

                    53edc566-d192-4ba7-9956-c5e7a684b816-image.png

                    Take a look here: developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/crawling/special-tags?hl=en

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