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  • lightwurx
    lightwurx last edited by Feb 6, 2014, 10:39 PM

    My company is conducting a link detox for a client, and it seems like every tool we utilize is giving us a different answer on how many links we actually have.  the numbers range anywhere from 4,000 to 200,000. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what tools will give us an accurate count, and will also email the webmasters on your behalf requesting the links removal?  We are trying to have this process be as automated as possible to save time on our end.

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    • MarieHaynes
      MarieHaynes last edited by Oct 17, 2014, 10:54 AM Oct 17, 2014, 10:54 AM

      I just wanted to add to this discussion to say that I created a tool that helps me create really good spreadsheets for link auditing.  It aggregates links from a number of sources, reduces the list down to one link from each domain, and marks the nofollows.  It also tells you which links are from domains that are on my blacklist of domains that I almost always disavow.  The blacklist contains over 14,000 domains at this point and is growing.  And, it tells you which links are from domains that I usually ignore such as dmoz scrapers and domain stats pages where we know the link is not one made for SEO purposes.

      I'm not a fan of tools that automate the decision making promises because I've seen so many of them mark fantastic links as bad ones and miss a whole bunch of really spammy links.  If you're trying to escape Penguin, you have to be way more accurate than this.

      It's still in a beta phase right now as I am working on making it as useful as possible, but you can see the details here: http://www.hiswebmarketing.com/manual-link-audits/

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      • rishil
        rishil last edited by Apr 28, 2014, 12:48 PM Apr 28, 2014, 12:48 PM

        If you are looking specifically for link analysis tools then a pretty good alternative is http://linkrisk.com/

        I have managed to get many penalties overturned based solely on using them as an analysis tool.

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        • Dr-Pete
          Dr-Pete Staff @Travis_Bailey last edited by Mar 3, 2014, 5:38 PM Mar 3, 2014, 5:38 PM

          Agreed - it's not much fun, but every reputable link auditor I know uses multiple available sources. All of the tools (including our own at Moz) have different biases, and when you're trying to get a complete a list as possible, you need to use as many sources as you can.

          I would highly recommend against going too automated - the cost "savings" short-term could be lost quickly if you start cutting potentially good links. It really depends on your current risk/reward profile. If you're already hit hard with a penalty, then cutting deep and fast may be a good bet (and automation would be more effective). If you're being proactive to prevent future issues, then relying too much on automation could be very dangerous.

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          • DennisSeymour
            DennisSeymour last edited by Feb 7, 2014, 4:39 AM Feb 7, 2014, 4:39 AM

            Like they said, compile/export everything, combine then remove duplicates and insert to the tool of your choice, like link risk, link detox or even rmoov if you want to contact these webmasters

            Be sure to still check the list since it's never 100% right. Some good, natural links can be classified within their calculations of bad urls.

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            • MoosaHemani
              MoosaHemani Banned last edited by Feb 7, 2014, 3:28 AM Feb 7, 2014, 3:28 AM

              I agree with everything that Travis said… the reason why you are witnessing different number of total links is because of the index you are using! GWT will give you limited amount of data where as Open site explorer will show you a bit more links (there index fetch every link that has been shared on twitter) where as the largest link index I know are Ahrefs and Majestic SEO.

              My advice would be to get the data from all sources, remove the duplicates and then run link detox. Keep a very close look of what link detox says are bad links because no one other than Google know what exactly is a bad links so all others are just using their own formula.

              I am sure if you are going to add the link file on “Link Risk” the results might be different from Link Detox.

              Just keep a close eye and decide if you want a particular link to be removed.

              Planning to remove links? There is a tool that can help you with that www.rmoov.com just give it a try and remove the links that are bad in your eye!

              Hope this helps!

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              • Travis_Bailey
                Travis_Bailey last edited by Mar 3, 2014, 5:36 PM Feb 6, 2014, 11:43 PM

                The difference between the number of links you see across various sources is because of the resources themselves. Some backlink services only crawl so much. Google can only crawl so much of the internet.

                Your best bet is to use multiple sources. I would go with GWT, Majestic SEO and aHrefs, then filter duplicates. You'll have a much better understanding of where the site stands. Once you have that, you can use Cemper Link Detox to upload the data.

                Be very careful, Link Detox still throws some false positives. Though I expect it to get better every day. There's a machine learning element to it that's based on human feedback.

                Finally, I would be very careful of fully automating anything like a disavow/removal process. Do you really want something so delicate taken out of your hands? It's still very necessary to manually check each link so you know that you're getting rid of the bad and keeping the good.

                Link Detox is the closest thing there is, that I'm aware of, that will help 'automate' the process in a safe-ish way. The subject of link removal/disavow is something so sensitive I wouldn't outsource it. Then again, I hate the idea of outsourcing overflow blog writing work to competent people. Call me a control freak.

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