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Should I use noindex or robots to remove pages from the Google index?
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I have a Magento site and just realized we have about 800 review pages indexed. The /review directory is disallowed in robots.txt but the pages are still indexed.
From my understanding robots means it will not crawl the pages BUT if the pages are still indexed if they are linked from somewhere else.
I can add the noindex tag to the review pages but they wont be crawled.
https://www.seroundtable.com/google-do-not-use-noindex-in-robots-txt-20873.html
Should I remove the robots.txt and add the noindex? Or just add the noindex to what I already have?
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Thanks, Logan!
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Rhys,
Your web dev team is confused. You cannot de-index by simply disallowing them in your robots.txt file. Google will still index anything they find (that doesn't have a noindex tag) from a link, this is the reason you often see search results that say "A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt" as the description.
Here's a quote from Google regarding the subject: "You should not use robots.txt as a means to hide your web pages from Google Search results." - https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/6062608?hl=en
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Hi all,
Sorry to jump in here but I've been told the opposite by our web dev team. We're removing indexed 404s at the moment, and our web dev team said we simply need to add robots.txt to the pages and they'll be de-indexed. If this incorrect? I thought I'd need to add a noindex tag but was argued down...
Cheers,
Rhys
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Hi there. Good question and one that comes up a lot.
You need to do the following:
- Put the noindex on those pages
- Remove the block in robots.txt
- Monitor these pages falling out of the index
- Once they are all out, then put the block back in place
You both want them to a) drop out and b) then not be crawled, so the above will take care of that for you.
Hope that helps!
John
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Thanks.
That is what I figured just wanted to double check.
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Hi Tyler,
Yes, remove the robots.txt disallow for that section and add a noindex tag. Noindex is the only sure-fire way to de-index URLs, but the crawlers need to be allowed to crawl those pages to see the tag.
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