Building a new website post penalty and redirects
-
A website I'm working on is clearly algorithmically penalised.
I've spent a lot of time mass disavowing spammy links, but it doesn't seem to make a difference.
We have been planning to build a new website anyway since we are rebranding.
1. Is it possible to tell which pages are most likely to have a penalty applied?
2. If the website as a whole has a penalty, will redirecting certain pages to the new website carry the penalty?
3. Our website is structured as sales pages and blog content. It is the sales pages that have the spammy links, yet most of the blog content does not rank either. Would it be a good strategy to only redirect all the blog posts (which have natural links pointing to them) to the new website and not the sales pages?
4. The homepage has a mix of spam and very good editorial links. If I have disavowed links and domains, can I safely redirect this page?
-
Daniel - No worries…
If there hasn't been a manual action (just a big drop in rankings), disavow is a great tool to use.
I think on the darker side of SEO, there has certainly been competitors in highly competitive spaces who have tried to create spammy links pointing to competitors as a means to win at this often zero-sum game. So my hunch is that is why Google realizes that sometimes links show up beyond your control.
Best practice, though, is to contact the other website and ask for links to be removed. But sometimes this can fall on deaf ears… Thus, Google's disavow tool…
If it was my site, I'd try to get some of the bad links removed.
And then really focus on a high-quality end user experience… including site load time, engaging content, etc...
Hope this helps guide the decision…
- Jeff
-
Hi Jeff, thanks for your response.
There has been no manual action, just an algorithmic penalty evidenced by the fact that posts do not rank for ab almost exact match for the name and sales pages that used to be page 1 arent in the top 50.
I have literally disavowed any link that is not an organic link or a link from a partner website.
Is disavowing (for a anlgo penalty) enough, or do we need to contact websites and have the link removed?
-
Daniel -
Have you had a manual action taken against the site? The place to look for this is in Google Webmaster Tools, and this describes it in more detail: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/35843?hl=en
If you have, you'll want to clean up everything and ask Google to reconsider the site. This process can take weeks.
Google can either take action against your entire site, or just parts of it, according to their blog here:
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2013/08/manual-actions-viewer.html
You might just want to start over, though, and do things with a clean slate.
Because repeat offenders, according to Google's Distinguished Engineer Matt Cutts, will face ever more challenging hurdles if additional manual actions occur.
If you haven't had a manual action against your site, you might want to do as much cleanup as possible, and monitor the performance. Try focusing on the end customer experience. What do they need to know? What enriches their lives? (Instead of what's great for the company's revenue.)
To answer the question about redirecting the blog posts - yes, that probably makes sense to do using 301 redirects, especially if that content is solid and has great inbound natural links.
Hope this helps!
-- Jeff
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Redirect 301 to homepage
Hello there, I have some low quality pages in my site, can I redirect 301 them to my homepage? My website is: https://idanito.com idanito.com
Technical SEO | | dannybaldwin0 -
Rewrite a good post
Hello I have a blog post from 2015 that is ranking very well on Google but I have a terrible bounce rate of more than 98% for this landing page. This post is bringing 4 more visits than the rest of my website pages so I need to make people stay in the site. I don't want to lose my rankings so my question is: Is it better to modify this post or to write a new post and delete the old one? Thank you
Technical SEO | | seoandromedical0 -
Tracing Redirects to a Site
I wonder if anyone has used any tools where you can trace the redirects pointing to a site? I know there are a number of tools out there that can be used to check where a URL redirects to, but I was wondering if anyone has used a tool where I could trace all redirects with the final URL? I am using this for competitor research so I don't have access to Analytics or Webmaster Tools.
Technical SEO | | BeattieGroup0 -
Keyword rankings for new website good in Yahoo and Bing but no movement in Google?
Hello, This past September I launched a new redesigned website for a client. His old website was a static html site that was many years old and the new website was created using WordPress. With the new design we made sure to use all the proper techniques for SEO. (h1 tages, image names, quality links, page titles, etc.) Plus, all the content is new content written for this site. I've actually launched new sites many times and after a few months usually start seeing keyword ranking improvements from the major search engines. With this particular website I'm seeing improvements in Yahoo and Bing but no movement in Google. I've used Google Webmaster Tools and made sure my sitemap is being submitted, etc. It all seems good, but I can't understand why Yahoo and Bing are working but nothing from Google. My page grades are all A's and B's and Moz isn't showing any big issues. Maybe I need to give it more time? This client is a lawyer and has many websites out there so maybe he's being penalized somewhere I don't know? As I mentioned, I've been doing SEO for about 8 years and have never had this much trouble with Google. I was wondering if you can look at the site and see if there are any glaring issues I'm missing. Website: http://www.arizonamedicalmalpractice.info/ The keyword phrases were are looking at are "Phoenix Medical Malpractice Lawyer", "Phoenix Medical Malpractice Attorney:, "Arizona Medical Malpractice Lawyer & Attorney", etc. I appreciate anyone who takes the time and does a quick look over. Thanks very much, Bill
Technical SEO | | Bill_K0 -
301 redirect after penalty to domain which currently 301 to the penalised domain
Hello all, As I have mentioned in another Q&A, one of our new clients got hit by manual penalty. I checked their link profile and there was a lot of black hat involved. Long story sort, I submitted a reconsiderationr equest which was not enough as it seems 99,9% of his links are bad links. We took the decision to move a newly launched web site from www.websitename.com to www.website-name.com with the latter being an old domain name with good authority and clean link profile. The problem is that at the moment the www.website-name.com is set to 301 redirect to www.websitename.com and what we want to do now is take the web site off www.websitename.com and launch (not 301 as we dont want to pass the penalty to the clean domain) it to www.website-name.com. What is the best practise for this particular case and are there any things i should pay attention to? I would appreciate your advise!
Technical SEO | | artdivision0 -
If a permanent redirect is supposed to transfer SEO from the old page to the new page, why has my domain authority been impacted?
For example, we redirected our old domain to a new one (leaving no duplicate content on the old domain) and saw a 40% decrease in domain authority. Isn't a permanent redirect supposed to transfer link authority to the place it is redirecting to? Did I do something wrong?
Technical SEO | | BlueLinkERP0 -
Redirect
Hello, I need to redirect just the homepage of my blog somewhere. So blog.com But there are other redirects in there and I don't want to override them. So blog.com/post.html How do I just redirect the homepage of wordpress page without redirecting all the other pages. This is what I did that recreated the issue. redirect 301 / blog2.com Thanks! Tyler
Technical SEO | | tylerfraser0 -
301 redirect issues
Hi all, I'm hoping someone will be able to help me with an extermley frustrating problem with 301 redirects in .htaccess. Basically I'm trying to redirect some old pages (from our old website) that stil rank to the new equivilent. For example - old url = www.domain.com/frames/news/company-news/news-reader.php?newsStoryID=395 New www.domain.com/news/article-title I've tried the simple redirect 301 /frames/news/company-news/news-reader.php?newsStoryID=395 http://www.domain.com/news/article-title But this doesnt work. I've also tried - RewriteEngine on
Technical SEO | | EclipseLegal
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^newsStoryID=395$
RewriteRule ^/news-reader.php$ http://www.domain.com/news/article-title/? [L,R=301] Could anyone help? I've followed lots of tutorials that all match the above but it just doesn't work! The only other thing within the htaccess file is from wordpress for pretty permalinks - BEGIN WordPress <ifmodule mod_rewrite.c="">RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteRule ^index.php$ - [L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]</ifmodule> END WordPress Many thanks in advance!0