KW Difficulty Daily Limit |

[WME]

Hi Guys,

We are using Keyword Difficulty Tool in Australia and today morning we noticed new 'keywords checked today' feature has been added.

Does that mean we can only check 400 kws per day?

Please clarify.

Thanks

[Zovi]

Out of interest, I have stopped using the tool altogether now. I use SEO cockpit for keyword research.

I wish I could still be using Moz, but its just so limited there is not point.

[JayLeary]

Hi there,

Sorry for the frustration. The Keyword Difficulty credits reset at 12:00 am GMT, regardless of your local time. Definitely let us know if you have any other questions. Best of luck with the keyword research.

[davo23]

I reached my limit yesterday which was frustrating as my keyword research project will now takes days rather than hours... I logged back in this morning and it still says "come back tomorrow"? I am in Australia, how does this work, is it 24 hours from it reaching the limit or between 12am to 11:59pm and is that based on the time in the US or the country from which you access the tool?

[Zovi]

"how do you use it? Do you generate full reports? Export multiple data points? Just using difficulty scores? Running daily, or large batches weekly or monthly?"

I use it to get the % difficulty of keywords. I don;t use the light reports.. I use about 200-300 full reports a month. I would be very happy to have the difficulty score in the API.. as now I am using the Moz API to get more data faster. I would like to get at least 50-100k difficulty scores per month.. More would be better.

And yes, I would be keep to have a keyword analysis only package. I've never used the other products.

[HighVoltage]

Thanks, I appreciate that.  Echoing Adwise_Internetmarketing below, I don't use the difficulty tool everyday but when I use it to run reports I often need more than 400 requests.  A weekly or monthly limit would work well.  Also, I really don't use any of the other tools.  A 'just the difficulty tool' package would be nice.  You could sell the tools a la carte.  You guys know marketing so I'm sure you can see how that could work to get people into your funnel.

[Adwise_Internetmarketing]

There are some days that we need more than 400 requests. Maybe it's an option to define a week limit? (400*7=2800 requests a week)

[HighVoltage]

I just updated to Medium.  After confirming the update went through and logging in and out a few times, the Keyword Difficulty tool still says 'We're sorry. Currently we are only able to offer results for 400 keywords per user per day. Please come back tomorrow.'

On the home tab it says I have used 44/750.  Anything I can do to enable the difficulty tool?

Thanks

[KeriMorgret]

Hi! There have been meetings internally about this, and we've made one change today (with more discussions to happen).

If you have an account higher than the Standard $99 a month subscription (so Medium or above), you'll get 750 keywords a day.

Feedback we'd like from you, if you haven't already shared it, is if you are using this tool in bulk, how do you use it? Do you generate full reports? Export multiple data points? Just using difficulty scores? Running daily, or large batches weekly or monthly?

Thank you!

[Zovi]

Thanks. I'm no coder, but I have managed to sort out the API to get all the data I need for one URL, but now I have to scrape the top 10 urls in Google  for hundreds of keywords. So having the difficulty metric in the API would be awesome -  even if it 'costs' 10 lines of API useage.

[KeriMorgret]

Thanks for letting us know, I'll pass that along to the engineers.

[KeriMorgret]

Zovi, we're discussing internally what to do, and we'll update as soon as we have more information.

[WME]

Hi Keri,

Today we have noticed that KD tool is not counting the keywords correctly. For e.g. I dropped 10 kws in the KD tool and my count was '73 of 400' and after the processing (results) it went up to "96 of 400 keywords checked today".

There is not specific trend but its not counting the processed kws correctly. Please advise.

Thanks

[Zovi]

Can we have the difficulty metric in the API please? I need the metric ASAP. 400 a day is seriously limiting my business.

Please can you suggest a solution?

[asolopovas]

Honestly easiest solution you have instead of imposing a daily limit, reduce the amount of queries per unit of time. Lets say 1 query every 10 seconds, than we can place the 1000 keywords and it be finished 2.7 hours, or whatever you think is suitable, this way you will be able to spread the load and still allow people to finish their job in one day, or in worst case scenario you can impose overal speed limit that is dynamic, for example if somebody starts abusing it his speed drops to levels of 1 query per required amount of seconds, so it will make the person who abusing it stop. Rather than imposing daily limits, you should try imposing speed limit this will take away the load and will stop people from abusing it. Same way as Mirc protection from flood.

[540SEO]

How about a temporary un-capping of the limit? You are making your product harder to use and it's affecting business. Fine if you want to charge more, but can we have it the way it was before you make (announce a change?

[KeriMorgret]

Honestly, what happened was we had something not work right, looked into it, and discovered some extreme abuse of the system. We went whooops, looks like some limits we had set previously hadn't carried over, let's reinstate them.

Right now, we're taking a deeper look at how this tool is being used, if people use it on a daily basis, or if it's more of heavy load a few times a month, and what makes sense for both us and our users in terms of usage. We will likely have different limits for the different plans.

I don't have an estimated time for changes right now, but there are several emails a day discussing this, so I don't anticipate it being something that takes months and months to implement. I will keep this thread updated as we have more information, and I am passing feedback from this thread to the teams in the discussion.

[asolopovas]

I do understand a bit about business its all about money, if you can have more profit out of existing hardware by imposing limitation on amount of queries then why not its recision at the end of the day, especially if it outweighs the risk of loosing customer. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to judge you, that's why I had to find alternative and use google keyword planner which gives similar result but its free of charge.

[540SEO]

I think a 400 limit per day is unreasonable, especially given the amount of the subscription fee for Moz. Usually when doing KW research, I have 10 categories or so of KW's, each with 50-75 terms. I don't use the tool daily, but when I do, getting hung up by a term limit puts my deadlines at risk.

Why was there no notification of this change to your paying users?

[Zovi]

I have this same problem. I am working with a client and without this tool I cannot see what keywords are easy to rank for or not. I don't mind having to pay more, but It is VITAL for my business.

I don't often use the tool, but when I do its for 5-10k keywords, probably once a month or every other month.

I would be keen to pay a lot more than $99 to get the limit removed, do other subscriptions have no limit?

[asolopovas]

Hi,

I am doing keyword research from time to time and filtering out keywords which are unpopular. I am doing it second time trying to figure out which of the keywords I generated are bogus for one of the other projects I have. I have 1000 keywords and its impossible to do it with new limitations in a day time. Very uncomfortable limitation.

[KeriMorgret]

This was the limit in the past, and at some point it was removed, and we discovered there was some extreme abuse of the system. We put back into place the 400 kws a day via the keyword difficulty tool a couple of days ago. We are open to modifying it if needed to meet your needs but make sure that our service availability is not impacted. [note: this doesn't mean that each individual user would get custom limits, we're just looking for what people use and figure out reasonable limits].

Do you often do more than 400 kws a day? Can you share the normal load used by your team?

Thanks!