Page grader says we are keyword stuffing but we arn't. Page source shows different story.
-
Hi community!
We have just run a page grader for the keyword 'LED Bulbs' on whichledlight.com and it comes up that we are keyword stuffing!
However, a brief look at the source for the homepage and there's only 6 times that
LED Bulbs
pops up.We do have the non plural version of the word 'LED Bulb' on the page 27 times.. do we think that would contribute to the keyword stuffing?
Thanks!!
-
There are already a lot of good answers here, so I just wanted to jump in and clarify a few points about our software specifically.
- We don't use a cached version of your site from Google, we crawl the pages directly each week with our own crawler to get the data for your updates. If you make changes between the updates, you should see these reflected in the data the next week.
- In the campaigns, we do count both the plural and singular versions of the keyword because the major search engines see these as the same, as well. If you do a search for LED Bulbs in Google, it pulls up results for both the singular and plural version of that term, so we want to reflect that in our reports. (Please note that the current version of the stand-alone research tool does not count plural and singular as the same term.)
- The on-page reports are just a suggestion based on our experience and best practices. Even though you may have 27 instances of a keyword in your code, that doesn't mean you won't rank well. You would need to look at all of the factors of the report and how you are rankin and then make a decision that best fits your specific SEO and marketing strategy. I do think Zoe Rigley's advice here is really great in regard to on-page strategy.
I hope this is helpful! Please let me know if I can help you with anything else.
-
Hi,
It's also my understanding that Moz checks its own version, so wait for the re-crawl report email for that project and you should be able to see your changes! You can also use the on-demand report.
Zoe
-
Try this to understand what Moz is seeing.
Go to Google and search site:whichledlight.com
Push the dropdown arrow next to your listing and press "Cached."
On this page, press "view source."
Search (Ctrl+F) for:
- bulb
- light
- LED
See the issue?
-
It is my understanding it checks its own version and it does this weekly (Moz staff please chime in to correct and/or clarify further). You can run a page report "on the fly" using Moz as well. Update your page then run the grader to see the changes.
-
what about MOZ. Does it crawl/look at the google cached site or will it check its own version...
it's just we updated the site not long ago and I don't know wether MOZ has picked up the changes yet -
Hi,
I'd say yes- even 6 times might be too much if your page text isn't that long. I'd reduce the amount of times you say that keyword, ensure you have synonyms, and above all, make the text user-friendly and readable. Make sure that the page answers the user's questions as quickly as possible, you use header tags and paragraphs, and break it up with some images/other useful information.
Remember that the quantity of keywords and keyword density are less and less important, as long as you have the keyword in the title, H1 and 2-3 times throughout the body content (a few more as relevant if the text is quite long). The Moz beginner guide to SEO discusses common myths, and one of them is keyword density- it's very insightful, I'd recommend reading it!
Hope this helps,
Zoe
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Good sources of information for product page SEO from a manufacturers perspective
I'm working with a manufacturer whose product copy is used by many many many retailers online. This copy is typically exactly the same or very similar to their own brand website. We're ok with that as most of the time our brand website is seen as the source of the information. Retailers, however, aren't so ok. Understandably they want unique product description content but we can't supply that for every retailer. So I want to acknowledge that whilst unique product copy is important there are other factors that they should consider such as site usability, the frequency and recency or ratings/reviews, etc. I've skimmed through google and reviewed the message boards and can see a number of posts touching on this topic but I wonder if anyone can recommend good sources or care to share their insights? Thanks in advance
On-Page Optimization | | willheadlondon1 -
Moving from Bigcommerce to Woocommerce on WP. Should we redirect size pages into one page?
We are moving from Bigcommerce to Woocommerce on WP. On Bigcommerce, due to some bizarre reasoning the previous developer had 3 separate URLS for the same product in different sizes - S, M and L. Now we plan to have one product page where the sizes can be selected and 301 redirect the 3 urls to the new one. Is this advisable? Or should we just have 3 separate pages. OR should we have one of the sizes pages as the new page and then redirect the other 2 to this one? I ask this because the site has a LOT of ranking power and we do not want to jeopardise that.
On-Page Optimization | | MashBonigala0 -
Positioning rethinking regarding triplicate keyword "landing pages"
Hi! We're rethinking our website and we have some doubts on how it would affect our positioning. Our main keyword right now is "casas de madera". Positioning by this keyword we have three different "main" pages: Our home (http://www.canexel.es/) 2)SEO landing page (http://www.canexel.es/casas-de-madera/) 3)A blog section (http://www.canexel.es/blog/casas-de-madera/) We thought at first about changing our home main keyword, but this option has been ruled out since is the keyword that gives us the most visits and changing it would result on a rebrandindg strategy we are not sure we want to pursue. We're thinking about a canonical from the landing page (2) to our Home (1) and making it disappear from our website. Regarding our blog we've thought about removing the blog section. We've thought about a 301 from every post to a new category or just deleting the category "casas de madera" from our site and telling google not to index the section (3) but continue indexing the posts we already have published under this category. Would any of these harm our positioning? And, if so, is ther any other steps you wolud recomend us taking? In this same topic, we're about to create a SEM Landing page for this same keyword. This page will be very visual and with little text. We are not sure if we should have a canonical pointing from it to our home or just not indexing the new SEM landing page. What would you recommend? Thanks
On-Page Optimization | | Canexel0 -
123 keywords for a page
Hey mOz fans , I have a site that has 130 keywords. can ı target this amount just incoperate them as Ryan discussed Before.
On-Page Optimization | | atakala0 -
Noindex child pages (whose content is included on parent pages)?
I'm sorry if there have been questions close to this before... I've using WordPress less like a blogging platform and more like a CMS for years now... For content management purposes we organize a lot of content around Parent/Child page (and custom-post-type) relationships; the Child pages are included as tabbed content on the Parent page. Should I be noindexing these child pages, since their content is already on the site, in full, on their Parent pages (ie. duplicate content)? Or does it not matter, since the crawlers may not go to all of the tabbed content? None of the pages have shown up in Moz's "High Priority Issues" as duplicate content but it still seems like I'm making the Parent pages suffer needlessly... Anything obvious I'm not taking into consideration? By the by, this is my first post here @ Moz, which I'm loving; this site and the forums are such a great resource! Anyways, thanks in advance!
On-Page Optimization | | rsigg0 -
I've just manually edited all the page titles and meta descriptions on a site, when will this show in Google results?
I've just manually edited all of the page titles, meta descriptions and optimised the copy on a client's site. I submitted this for a new crawl on Google via Webmaster Tools but when I do a Google search the old versions are still showing. Will it still take a few weeks for the new versions to show even though Google has crawled it via Webmaster?
On-Page Optimization | | aoifep0 -
How different does each page tilte need to be?
I've got a site that is all about wood countertops. There are a few ways people can find info on wood tops. (main) wood countertops (main) butcher block butcher block counters wood counters hardwood countertops etc. For the most part I want to rank for the two top key phrases because they pretty much cover all the other basis with google being as smart as it is. So they question is how different should each page title be? Examples: Wood Countertops - Butcher Block Counters | by J. Aaron = index page Wood Counter tops - Butcher Block Counters - About Us | J. Aaron = about us page Cleaning Butcher Block - Wood Countertop Maintenance | J. Aaron = care & maintenance page Would it be OK to use: <title>Wood Countertops - Butcher Block Counters | by J. Aaron</title> as the template for the whole site with the addition of the actual page subject as an additional piece of the sentence, like example 2 or would that be too similar? Also is that a good idea or should I commit to optimizing each page for a different key phrase? If so would you optimize the home page for the most searched for phrase and let the other pages back it up with the other search terms?
On-Page Optimization | | JAARON0 -
How do I do a 301 Redirect in IIS 7 from http://www.freightmonster.com/index.html to http://freightmonster.com/index.html when I don't have a physical page to redirect?
I'm trying to get rid of my Rel Canonical links and use the 301 Redirect instead.
On-Page Optimization | | FreightBoy0