Homepage bombed from rankings 2
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I've had some varying advice on here regarding the best way to proceed with [i'll PM the URL] which was hit by Penguin 2.0. There were previous issues with the homepage and before the 22nd had started creating new decent links.
Some have suggested to ditch the domain and start again. There are several reasons not to and branding is the deciding factor at this stage.
I'm going down the route of initially trying to manually remove links and then follow on with disavow. I would really appreciate another pair of eyes taking a quick look to see if i'm missing anything other than a dodgy link profile.
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Ditching your domain is a little drastic. The question is really how bad are these links linking to you. You don't have you answer this but did you buy links at some point? If you did, start by checking those.
"I'm going down the route of initially trying to manually remove links and then follow on with disavow." - that's the right path. Keep at it and submit yourself for reconsideration requests if you received anything in Webmaster Tools.
To get back on the path to growth try checking into Broken Link Building. It's an easy way to get a few links and considered a White Hat technique. You'll be able to increase your links a bit here to help boost your organic growth and get back on track.
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Without seeing anything, if you're positive Penguin was what you were hit by and you have a dodgy link profile, then the link profile is almost definitely the cause. Removing links and disavowing what can't be removed is the way to go. Feel free to PM me the link if you want.
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