Is there a direct correlation between google places and organic listing ?
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Basically, I have examined several examples that the sites which are included in Google places are not listed in organic results in page 1.
For example, If my site is listed in google places. is it going to affect my ranking for the same keyword?.
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Hi john, miriam and Linda,
Thank you for responding. Now everything make scene to me.
I thought my site was De-indexed by penguin 2.0. Then some how i noticed Google page listing and you guys made that clear.
feel so relived.
Thank you
Abith
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Google still has 2 different algos and 2 different display styles for local. The main algo that shows up we call blended and that's the one everyone refers to above, where your organic listing will be blended in or absorbed into the Places listings.
The other algo (the old Places algo) does not show up as much any more, but when it does, the organic and Places listings are separate so you can easily get 2 listings if both site and Place are strong.
Here's an example Poway Dentist: https://www.google.com/search?q=poway+Dentist&ie=UTF-8
(The telltale sign that that's the old algo is the link above the pack that says "Dentist near Poway, CA"
Both listings are in the Places "pack" plus in organic as well. But again this style listing does not show up much any more and typically only for smaller towns or less competitive search terms.
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Hi Abith,
Typically, yes, your inclusion in the local results is likely to cause the disappearance of your previous organic rank. This is because your previous organic rank will be subsumed into your new blended local rank. It has been uncommon since the Venice update of early 2012 for any business to have more than one page one spot in the SERPs. Exceptions to this:
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In areas with low competition (like a single bakery serving a large rural area with no competitors) or areas for which Google lacks much data.
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When a second, interior page of a website is strong enough to achieve a second organic ranking, independent of the index page which is typically what is used on the Google+ Local page.
Sometimes, I'm surprised by the exceptions I run into out there in the wild, but typically, no, if you have a local ranking, you generally won't also have a page 1 organic ranking.
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Great blog here which can help answer your questions ...
http://moz.com/ugc/is-your-website-being-replaced-with-google-plus-local-listings
Regards
John
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