Spam Links? -115 Domains Sharing the Same IP Address, to Remove or Not Remove Links
-
Out of 250 domains that link to my site about 115 are from low quality directories that are published by the same company and hosted on the same ip address.
Examples of these directories are:
-www.keydirectory.net -www.linkwind.com -www.sitepassage.com
-www.ubdaily.com -www.linkyard.org
A recent site audit from a reputable SEO firm identified 125 toxic links. I assume these are those toxic links. They also identified about another 80 suspicious domains linking to my site. They audit concluded that my site is suffering a partial Penguin penalty due to low quality links.
My question is whether it is safe to remove these 125 links from the low quality directories. I am concerned that removing this quantity of links all at once will cause a drop in ranking because the link profile will be thin with only about 125 domains remaining that point to the site. Granted those 125 domains should be of somewhat better quality.
I am playing with fire by having these removed. I URGENTLY NEED ADVICE AS THE WEBMASTER HAS INITIATED STEPS TO REMOVE THE 125 LINKS.
Thanks everyone!!!
Alan
-
Hi Alan,
Can you give us an update on how things are going? Do you have any more questions? Have you seen any changes recently?
-
I would definitely remove them. They're probably a factor in the Penguin algorithm. If for some reason Penguin hasn't picked up on these links then it probably will in the future as Google is constantly evolving the Penguin algorithm.
If your site is truly affected by Penguin then you're going to need to be really thorough with your disavowing and removing. Removing just some of the links is not likely to make a huge difference. The only sites that I have seen recover are ones that have removed and/or disavowed close to 100% of their unnatural links AND also have a good base of natural links.
-
Hey Alan,
I didn't realize how deep you had gone in your research already! I definitely agree with removing them now that I understand how you found all of this.
I've seen a lot of people blame penguin and other google anti-blackhat methods for their lack of traffic but few have actual proof the way you do. And its funny you mention blogging at the end. I was just going to ask about your content and its freshness, etc. I used to have a blog with a TON of content but some of it was poorly written. I'm not the best at grammar apparently.. so I removed a bunch of articles I thought were a waste of time for anybody reading them.. bigmistake! I lost almost half my traffic.
Best of luck,
-Nick
-
Hi Nick:
Thanks for your perspective.
Our website traffic (my company is a commercial real estate brokerage firm in New York City) dropped 60% after the first Penguin update in April of 2012. It recovered somewhat last October after the latest Penguin update after we eliminated repetitive, spammy footer links. The site was also redesigned last Summer.
The quality of the links was only reviewed last November by a SEO firm and a formal audit. The links were analyzed by Link Detox. About 55% are toxic. 40% suspicious and 5% OK. I have no stomach to risk my business with this terrible link profile. But I am trying to take a middle of the road approach. First step being to remove links from 113 domains deemed toxic by Link Detox. These domains all originate on the same IP address so they are mostly a link farm. The owner of the directories has agreed to remove them.
That will still leave me with some toxic links, suspicious link and a few good ones. So I am immediately going to hire an SEO firm for six months to build high quality links (monitoring their deliverables each month). Only in a few months after we have obtained some high quality links will I start working on removing the other toxic and suspicious links. The objective will be to try to radically improve the link profile within a year.
I am also going to be adding blog content on a weekly basis and increase activity on social media to counter what I am realizing is an absolutely awful link profile.
In the last two years I spent more than $35,000 on web marketing and coding and ignored the link profile. BIG MISTAKE!!!
-
Hi Alan,
You Should Delete all of these bad/low Quality backlinks. It will not effect your website but will help in Long term.
Also, did your Website Rankings Dropped ? If so then You have to delete all bad backlinks and Change Anchor text of the Good backlinks to something more Generic.
If your Website is Ranking well then how Can anyone tell that it has been hit by penguin ? Penguin effected website have lost their Rankings.
hope it helps.
-
Hi Alan,
Do you have any evidence that you are under any sort of penalty? I agree with Morgan that these directories are playing with fire and could definitely burn you BUT I also know first hand my biggest competitor uses these directory sites for the majority of their back-links and they outrank me on most keywords I target. If you feel like living dangerously don't mess with them but don't add more. If you want to be 100% clean and straight edge than have them removed but it may hurt you. This is sort of a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario.
Just my .02
-Nick
-
Hi Alan,
I would remove the links. If you're indeed suffering from a penguin penalty, your site will suffer as long as you have those links. Ask these directories/sites to remove their links to you, or disavow them. Keep a log of your backlinks, the ones you've identified as spammy, and the actions you've taken to clean up your link profile.
I know you're concerned about removing these links and how it will affect your search rankings. As long as you're under a penalty, your site won't do as well in SERPs. Cleaning up your link profile will get you out of the Google doghouse, and help you on your way to better SERP listings. Make sure you're working to get links from highly authoritative websites, and you'll be in a better position.
Good luck!
Morgan
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Site Migration Question - Do I Need to Preserve Links in Main Menu to Preserve Traffic or Can I Simply Link to on Each Page?
Hi There We are currently redesigning the following site https://tinyurl.com/y37ndjpn The local pages links in the main menu do provide organic search traffic. In order to preserve this traffic, would be wise to preserve these links in the main menu? Or could we have a secondary menu list (perhaps in the header or footer), featured on every page, which links to these pages? Many Thanks In Advance for Responses
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | ruislip180 -
Any idea why Google Search Console stopped showing "Internal Links" and "Links to your site"
Our default eCommerce property (https://www.pure-elegance.com) used to show several dozen External Links and several thousand Internal Links on Google Search Console. As of this Friday both those links are showing "No Data Available". I checked other related properties (https://pure-elegance.com, http:pure-elegance.com and http://www.pure-elegance.com) and all of them are showing the same. Our other statistics (like Search Analytics etc.) remain unchanged. Any idea what might have caused this and how to resolve this?
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | SudipG0 -
Internal Linking
Hi I've been looking over my pages and it says for this page for example http://www.key.co.uk/en/key/1-6kw-halogen-heater I have too many links, I think it was about 178. These links are from the menu and bottom of the page - how much of an issue is this for internal linking structure? I wouldn't want to remove the menus or change them too much. Thank you!
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | BeckyKey0 -
Domain Authority... http://www.domain.com/ vs. http://domain.com vs. http://domain.com/
Hey Guys, Looking at Page Authority for my Site and ranking them in Decending Order, I see these 3 http://www.domain.com/ | Authority 62 http://domain.com | Authority 52 http://domain.com/ | Authority 52 Since the first one listed has the highest Authority, should I be using a 301 redirects on the lower ranking variations (which I understand how works) or should I be using rel="canonical" (which I don't really understand how it works) Also, if this is a problem that I should address, should we see a significant boost if fixed? Thanks ahead of time for anyone who can help a lost sailor who doesn't know how to sail and probably shouldn't have left shore in the first place. Cheers ZP!
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | Mr_Snack0 -
If I own a .com url and also have the same url with .net, .info, .org, will I want to point them to the .com IP address?
I have a domain, for example, mydomain.com and I purchased mydomain.net, mydomain.info, and mydomain.org. Should I point the host @ to the IP where the .com is hosted in wpengine? I am not doing anything with the .org, .info, .net domains. I simply purchased them to prevent competitors from buying the domains.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | djlittman0 -
Fading Text Links Look Like Spammy Hidden Links to a g-bot?
Ah, Hello Mozzers, it's been a while since I was here. Wanted to run something by you... I'm looking to incorporate some fading text using Javascript onto a site homepage using the method described here; http://blog.thomascsherman.com/2009/08/text-slideshow-or-any-content-with-fades/ so, my question is; does anyone think that Google might see this text as a possible dark hat SEO anchor text manipulation (similar to hidden links)? The text will contain various links (4 or 5) that will cycle through one another, fading in and out, but to a bot the text may appear initially invisible, like so; style="display: none;"><a href="">Link Here</a> All links will be internal. My gut instinct is that I'm just being stupid here, but I wanted to stay on the side of caution with this one! Thanks for your time 🙂 http://blog.thomascsherman.com/2009/08/text-slideshow-or-any-content-with-fades
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | PeterAlexLeigh0 -
How should I handle these links?
I recently purchased a site which is in the same niche as my personal blog. MANY of the keywords which I want both sites to rank for, they are already ranking well for (Eg I rank #1 with one site and #5 for the other). I haven't started linking the two sites to each other yet (waiting to announce the acquisition before I do). I have 2 questions for you all... How powerful do you think linking between these sites could be? How do you think I should handle the linking between these two sites?
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | PedroAndJobu0 -
First Link Priority question - image/logo in header links to homepage
I have not found a clear answer to this particular aspect of the "first link priority" discussion, so wanted to ask here. Noble Samurai (makers of Market Samurai seo software) just posted a video discussing this topic and referencing specifically a use case example where when you disable all the css and view the page the way google sees it, many times companies use an image/logo in their header which links to their homepage. In my case, if you visit our site you can see the logo linking back to the homepage, which is present on every page within the site. When you disable the styling and view the site in a linear path, the logo is the first link. I'd love for our first link to our homepage include a primary keyword phrase anchor text. Noble Samurai (presumably seo experts) posted a video explaining this specifically http://www.noblesamurai.com/blog/market-samurai/website-optimization-first-link-priority-2306 and their suggested code implementations to "fix" it http://www.noblesamurai.com/first-link-priority-templates which use CSS and/or javascript to alter the way it is presented to the spiders. My web developer referred me to google's webmaster central: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66353 where they seem to indicate that this would be attempting to hide text / links. Is this a good or bad thing to do?
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | dcutt0